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[atlarge-discuss] RE: [atlarge-panel] 006 Deciding Name - Resolution andRecommendation to Members



Joanna,

We should absolutely ensure that there is membership support for the organization's name. If the membership wants something without ICANN, I'll support that choice.

That said, your response leaves me genuinely puzzled. On Sunday you sent an email to the panel asking them to indicate their preference for three names -- icannatlarge, internetatlarge, and worldatlarge. The following day you now indicate that "ICANN must go" and that "We have two options on the table here - WorldAtLarge and InternetAtLarge."

What has changed in 24 hours such that one of the choices has been removed? We haven't heard from the entire panel, much less the membership. Was the inclusion of icannatlarge as a choice a good faith choice? When you say that "I would not be doing my job if I were to allow one side to rule this organization at the expense of the other", isn't that possibly exactly what you're doing when you say that ICANN is off the table before everyone is heard from?

MG

 > From: Michael Geist [mailto:mgeist@netcom.ca]
 I would prefer to deal with a name change when/if that comes to pass.
 For now, ICANN = Internet governance and we need to play in the
 sandbox.

Michael,
I don't think you're right on this one. We have members such as yourself and
Hans who quite obviously believe the action should remain with ICANN. That's
valid, but nevertheless, ought not to override the interests of others who
feel differently. For a start, the majority of ICANN's GA voted for going
over the top of ICANN's head and approaching the DoC directly to have the
ICANN contracts rebid. Now, whether or not you agree with that, I would not
be doing my job if I were to allow one side to rule this organization at the
expense of the other.

My mission is to try to hold this together and there is no way I can do that
if you alienate half the membership by the choice of name. ICANN must go,
but remains very much a part of the group in the WG-ICANN subset. Those who
oppose having anything more to do with ICANN have already compromised in
allowing the "AT Large" part of the name to go forward. If you and Hans will
also compromise on the ICANN part, then I think we can make this work.

We have two options on the table here - WorldAtLarge and InternetAtLarge. I
agree that the mission should be focused on Internet Governance, so for me,
WorldAtLarge is a little broad, and might invite the group to be distracted
by people who would like to see us distracted.

For me the "InternetAtLarge" is a excellent choice - and to counter Hans's
point that it is too much of a change from what we have now, I disagree. In
short form it's still IAL. The initial "I" takes the first Initial letter of
ICANN and spells it out, so the only thing that it is being lost here is
"Corporation of Assigned Names and Numbers". A change of the kind Hans is
talking about would be say, Govern.net, which was also another suggestion on
the table.


Regards,
Joanna




 >  > To explicitly operate outside ICANN, it is to be so far
 >>  outside that process as to not matter at all.
 >
 >What then of CIRA and other non-icann-branded constituencies?
 >

 CIRA and other cc's are not about ICANN nor does it seek a direct
 voice on ICANN in the same way that at-large does.  While ICANN
 issues are discussed by the board, it is hardly a key focus.

 MG
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