Re: [atlarge-discuss] analysis

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  What you are suggesting is what the DNSO GA tried to do and failed,
and the IDNO tried to do and failed.  Volunteer efforts are indeed
laudable, but don't feed the bulldog...   In other words, without funds
and a good funding plan/method, this organization is doomed...

eric@hi-tek.com wrote:

> Give it a realistic time period people.
> This is voluntary.
> this is not a corporation it is a group at this point.
> If we build it they will come along with their check books.
> We may not be completely open and transparent but at least we are open and
> notorious.
> e
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Danny and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> >
> >   Danny, with all due respect I think you are being a bit premature
> > as well as melodramatic.
> >
> >   The ALAC is a ruse, and has been from the beginning.  Some of the
> > more astute of us here recognized that from the start.  The ICANN staff
> > and BoD will never willingly agree to have BoD members elected by
> > stakeholders/users in any At-Large, regardless of it's form.  Yet they
> > did promise to do so.  Hence, the approach from ICANNATLARG's
> > position presently can still take several forms.  But time is wasting...
> >
> > DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >
> > > It's a simple fact of life that groups that have no power are quickly
> > > subsumed by groups that are capable of wielding power.  The powerless
> > > At-Large is effectively dead, now subsumed by governments that can
> > > legitimately make the claim that they collectively represent the interests of
> > > the broader user community.
> > >
> > > While participants on this list go through the futile motions of
> > > self-organization (an exercise designed by ICANN to keep people busy and
> > > quiet), well-established power blocs like the European Commission negotiate
> > > directly with the U.S. Department of Commerce to strengthen the role of
> > > governments in the namespace.
> > >
> > > We are witnessing a transition that will ultimately lead to an international
> > > treaty organization.  In the immediate future, this means denying a role to
> > > the At-Large and expanding the role of governments.  Over the course of time,
> > > we will next begin to see a diminished role for the currently established
> > > "stakeholders" (to the same degree that governments are now collectively
> > > acting to minimize the role of the ITU, an organization similarly structured
> > > with a commercial component).
> > >
> > > Finally, a treaty organization will emerge to replace the private entity
> > > model.
> > >
> > > The At-Large is in a terminal coma.  The ALAC is nothing more than an open
> > > casket awaiting the final moment of burial.  Get over this lost cause, and
> > > get on with your lives.  Find another path to influence the decision-makers.
> > > In my view, the path you are on now leads nowhere.
> > >
> > > Best wishes to all.
> > >
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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