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[atlarge-discuss] Stop the garbage



What a freaking game,

Are you giving us the name or not?
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NameCritic wrote:

> I have a reseller account with enom and am very familiar with them. locking
> the domain name from being transferred without permission of the owner is a
> normal protection and doesn't declare some ulterior motive on the part of
> the owner. Just good business sense. Registrars who do not offer this
> protection are behind the times and shouldn't be used. Many names have been
> hacked and stolen. The lock stops that from occurring.
>
> Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "atlarge discuss list" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Cc: "marc schneiders" <marc@schneiders.org>; "Marc Schneiders"
> <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:27 PM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Re:Marc Please respond! to: [atlarge-discuss]
> Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
>
> > Curtis and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> >
> >   Not true that ENOM locks all DN's that are registered through them.
> > Several of our [INEGroup] members have domains registered by
> > ENOM and none of them are locked.  As to the intention of Marc,
> > I am in no way sure.  But locking a non-resolving DN is many times
> > a tactic used by DN horders.
> >
> > Curtis M. Kularski wrote:
> >
> > > The domain's "locked" status shouldn't be used to judge intentions, as
> > > this domain was registered with ENOM, and that is the default for that
> > > registrar.  At present, all of my domains with ENOM are in locked status
> > > to deter domain hijacking. I hope Marc responds soon so we can end this
> > > "what if" thread.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:32 AM
> > > To: curtis@kularski.net
> > > Cc: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> > > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
> > >
> > > Curtis and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> > >
> > >   If you read my postings in response to Jefsey and Richard you should
> > > have noticed that I CC'ed Marc and ask him about the DN
> > > ICANNATLARGE.ORG in the posting in response to Richard.
> > > See archives for further information...  Hence, Yes Marc has been
> > > contacted.
> > >
> > >   My guess is that he has not intention of turning over the DN
> > > ICANNATLARGE.ORG as he has it locked presently.
> > > see swhois.net for ICANNATLARGE.ORG for further details.
> > > I also posted those details as well for everyone's edification.
> > >
> > > Curtis M. Kularski wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jeff, etc,
> > > >         I don't know how you all feel about the issue of buying the
> > > > domain from Marc, but I would be willing to donate financial resources
> > > > to the purchase.  However, I feel that IF we get the domain back from
> > > > him, then we should make sure there is some type of guardian of the
> > > > domain that will ensure that it is renewed when necessary and doesn't
> > > > fall our of the organization's control.  Has someone made an attempt
> > > to
> > > > contact Marc yet?
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > Curtis M. Kularski
> > > > Certified Novell Administrator
> > > > curtis@kularski.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:19 PM
> > > > To: Richard Henderson
> > > > Cc: Walter Schmidt; Atlarge Panel List; Atlarge Discuss List
> > > > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
> > > >
> > > > Richard and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> > > >
> > > >   I would gander a guess that Marc would want some $$ consideration
> > > > for either of these Domain names.  Perhaps he would donate them for
> > > > other special considerations with our yet to be legally formed
> > > > organization,
> > > > like perhaps CEO for life, or something like that...  In any event, as
> > > > we
> > > > do not have any $$ yet, the buying of these DN's is not an option.
> > > >
> > > >   However I have a DN for this group that I registered some time ago
> > > > that I will donate for not consideration.
> > > http://icann-int-atlarge.org/
> > > > It is currently "Under construction" unofficially, and just waiting
> > > > for someone to need it, officially...
> > > >
> > > > Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I guess it depends which name (if any) Marc Schneiders is prepared
> > > to
> > > > offer
> > > > > us, as he is now registrant for both www.icannatlarge.org and
> > > > > www.atlarge.org
> > > > >
> > > > > This is not meant to pre-suppose that he will offer either, as that
> > > is
> > > > > entirely up to him
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Walter Schmidt <walts@dorsai.org>
> > > > > To: Atlarge Panel List <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>; Atlarge
> > > Discuss
> > > > List
> > > > > <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > > > > Cc: Walter Schmidt <walts@dorsai.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:46 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, DPF wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Preferential ballots are ideal for coping with an option that is
> > > > no
> > > > > > > longer valid.  You merely get the vote counters to recount the
> > > > results
> > > > > > > excluding the option which has been struck out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doing so results in ATLARGE.ORG being our new name (also coming in
> > > > second
> > > > > > on the initial accounting).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.atlarge.org resolves to:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Name: pan.bijt.net
> > > > > > IP Address: 213.196.2.97
> > > > > > Location: AMSTERDAM (52.370N,   4.900E)
> > > > > > Network: NL-CYBERCOMM-COLO-1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Domain Name: BIJT.NET
> > > > > >    Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.
> > > > > >    Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
> > > > > >    Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org
> > > > > >    Name Server: MEJAC.PALO-ALTO.CA.US
> > > > > >    Name Server: NS2.GLOBALXS.NL
> > > > > >    Name Server: PAN.BIJT.NET
> > > > > >    Name Server: NS2.SECONDARY.NL
> > > > > >    Name Server: FUCHSIA.BIJT.NET
> > > > > >    Name Server: NS1.SECONDARY.NL
> > > > > >    Name Server: VOO.DOO.NET
> > > > > >    Name Server: BA.UHA.US
> > > > > >    Updated Date: 04-sep-2002
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The vote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  ATLARGE.ORG = Column 1
> > > > > >   = Column 2
> > > > > >  INTERNETATLARGE.ORG = Column 3
> > > > > >  WORLDATLARGE.ORG = Column 4
> > > > > >  NETATLARGE.ORG = Column 5
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  >50% = number greater than 50% remaining votes
> > > > > >  Total = total remaining for round
> > > > > >  90 = total valid votes
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  FIRST ROUND:
> > > > > >  >50% Total One Two Three Four Five
> > > > > >  46 90 39 33 12 6
> > > > > >   100% 43% 37% 13% 7%
> > > > > >  After 1st round, no clear winner
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  SECOND ROUND:
> > > > > >   1 2 0
> > > > > >  44 90 87 40 35 12
> > > > > >   100% 46% 40% 14%
> > > > > >   100% 97% 44% 39% 13%
> > > > > >  6 NETATLARGE.ORG votes result in 3 votes to allocate, still no
> > > > clear
> > > > > > winner
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  THIRD ROUND:
> > > > > >   5 1
> > > > > >  41 90 81 45 36
> > > > > >   100% 56% 44%
> > > > > >   100% 90% 50% 40%
> > > > > >  12 WORLDATLARGE.ORG votes result in 6 votes to allocate, with
> > > > ATLARGE.ORG
> > > > > > receiving 56% of remaining votes and 50% of valid votes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  --- REgards, walts@dorsai.org Walter C. Schmidt, IT CPA  Blue(.)
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > Regards,
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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