Re: [atlarge-discuss] The wisdom of GBS

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  I suggest you read from the national archives FRD's papers and notes.
I think you will find them quite interesting as to what I stated.  And I
only used two examples.  I was not insulting your or anyone's intelligence.
If you felt insulted, maybe that is because you were unaware?  I do
not know that though...  Just a guess..

  Of course Eric or anyone is entitled to their opinion.  So as much, am I.
If your opinion or Danny's with respect to GBS's words that Ron kindly
and rightly provided differ, that is fine with me.  I respectfully and
completely disagree and agree with GBS.

eric@hi-tek.com wrote:

> Funny I always thought that exercising good judgement and pleading fifth were
> wonderful ideas.
> Your FDR example is dead wrong and inapplicable.
> You post too much Jeff.  Period, end of story.  I have argued this with you before.
> I doubt all of us are idiots and only you intelligent.
>
> Eric
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Eric and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> >
> >   CENSORSHIP IN ANY OF IT'S FORMS IS WRONG!
> > Self censorship is one of the worst forms of censorship that
> > can be imagined.   Pleading the 5th is a form of self censorship
> > that is a two edged sword for instance.  Just look at the senate
> > hearing's on Enron, Worldcom, Quest, ect, ect, ect...  Just review
> > for instance when FDR held his tongue when the sudatenland
> > was marched on by the than Nazi german army.  Had he
> > spoken as he so desired to do, dunkirk may have never happened
> > as FDR may have been able to mobilize the american people
> > sooner.  Instead 1000's died perhaps unnecessarily.  So yes,
> > despite Danny's verbal fencing, and your, Eric, suggestion,
> > old George Bernard Shaw was oh so timelessly and
> > unconditionally correct!  I bow to his uncommon wisdom...  Perhaps
> > now, you and Danny shall also?  I am a patient man, as GBS was,
> > so I can always continue to be hopeful for those that espouse
> > less than what GBS said here, and hope after all is the mother of
> > all men....
> >
> > eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> >
> > > Censorship is bad as a group.  Self censorship is most preferable.
> > > Self censoring is probably the wonderful middle ground.
> > > I have never seen a computer without a delete button.
> > > I am filtered by many.  I take no offence.
> > > However I believe some limitations are in order on bandwidth.
> > > I say this because I travel so much that sometimes pulling up the messages
> > > breaks the connection or costs too much in time and money.  Especially when many
> > > do not trim the tail off the comet of long threads.
> > > I think we can reach a middle ground.  Something like seven posts a twenty four
> > > Hour period with a three out of five days violation being grounds for action.
> > > Notice though that some just post gross long messages and others post many short
> > > and sweet messages.
> > >
> > > All in all the delete button for low tech and filters for high tech makes more
> > > sense.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Micheal Sherrill wrote:
> > >
> > > > I second this motion.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Micheal Sherrill
> > > >
> > > > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > > > From: DannyYounger@cs.com
> > > > Date:  Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:00:15 EDT
> > > >
> > > > Ron, while the wisdom of George Bernard Shaw on censorship is inspiring, the
> > > > author probably didn't have to deal with 26 messages a day from Jeff
> > > > Williams.  Jeff's verbal diarrhea is a detriment to the list.  You may wish
> > > > to consider establishing posting rules for this organization before his
> > > > boorish behavior drives away the remaining participants.
> > >
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> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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