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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [wg-web] managing our site
Jaz and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
Jaz-Michael King wrote:
> So... I can just join the wg-web, no questions asked? Or will I be in lurk mode?
You can join no questions ask of course. That is the point of being
open and transparent after all...
>
>
> Sorry if it's a moronic question, I'm used to workgroups only allowing wg members to discuss wg matters. Is it some kind of free for all workgroup that anyone can join?
Not a free for all, no. But open and transparent to any and all members
that wish to join in and help out as well as actively participate.
>
>
> I'm late to the group, and there's really not that much guidance anywhere... sorry if I'm not caught up on everything. Us new mebers can't be expected to guess at everything.
I was not suggesting anyone "Guess" on anything or everything. That should
have been perfectly clear in that I suggested that if you don't wish to join
than at least take the personal responsibility to review the archives which
I posted the URL for to make it at least a little bit easier for you or any
other new or existing member.
>
>
> And what's meant by "personal responsibility to do your own updating of your own interests" - not sure what that means, but I'll gladly do it whatever it is, if it helps.
Personal responsibility in this context means that your request can and should
be handled by yourself, and not by the rest of any other member to
spoon feed you specifically as you requested, the pertinent information that
you seem to be interested in. Hence again why I posted the URL for the
Archives of the WG-WEB. Here it is again so that you can update
yourself at you own leisure or in whatever time you wish to:
http://icann-at-large.org/pipermail/wg-web_icann-at-large.org/
If you are a personally responsible person as well as member, I would
strongly suggest and recommend that you avail yourself of every opportunity
to keep yourself updated instead of asking others to do it for you...
>
>
> j
>
> >>> Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> 11/27/02 04:22PM >>>
> Jaz and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
>
> Jaz, participants of the WG-Web list most likely will not have the time
> or the inclination to forward posts of discussion and debate on the WG-Web
> list to you specifically. Hence there is an archive for you to review, or
> you can join the WG-WEB list yourself.
> Archives are located here: http://icann-at-large.org/pipermail/wg-web_icann-at-large.org/
>
> As a member that may have an interest in the WG-WEB discussions
> and activities, you have a personal responsibility to do your own
> updating of your own interests as it pertaines to this organization.
>
> Jaz-Michael King wrote:
>
> > I'm not on the web WG so please forward this to them if it doesn't make it. Also would members of the web wg please notice that I do not receive mail sent to the web wg list, please cc me if you are replying to me.
> >
> > Now then, who wants a content management system? I can install a CMS that will allow various people access to various parts of the site, wg web can then approve/edit/reject changes (based on rules set out in the web notpublishing manual).
> >
> > Can I stress how important it is that whoever is "webmaster" should have little or no editorial input into the site.
> >
> > If you want to know my credentials visit my awful homepage http://www.mynameismonkey.com
> >
> > I'm willing to help out and get stuff moving, but I really don't have the time to wade through the ridiculous amount of non-productive email assaulting me from the lists.
> >
> > So, serious offer, let me see what your host can support and I'll get you a content posting system that will distibute ownership of content among the org.
> >
> > j
> >
> > ******************************
> > Jaz-Michael King
> > Online Services Manager
> > IPRO
> > http://ipro.org
> > ******************************
> >
> > >>> Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> 11/27/02 05:27AM >>>
> > Vittorio and all stakeholers or other interested parties and members,
> >
> > Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 19:30:31 -0800, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >The reason I was selected to be the webmaster was because the panel knew
> > > >that I wouldn't use the web site as a personal platform to get my own
> > > >viewpoints across. I was not asked to write any text for the site, and in
> > > >fact, the panel had an expectation that I would not write any text for the
> > > >site or take any independent editorial initiative. My only job is to take
> > > >news and announcements, approved by the panel, and post them to the web
> > > >site. Whenever the Chair has sent me something and asked that it be posted
> > > >to the web site, it has been posted *very* promptly.
> > > >
> > > >I personally don't care whether I'm the webmaster or not. If the panel wants
> > > >to change directions, fine with me.
> > >
> > > Your editorial work is great (not just here - in general) so I would
> > > be more than happy if you continued doing it, and even started writing
> > > editorial content for our site on your own (though I imagine your
> > > available time is not much).
> >
> > It is clear due to the lag time in getting the basic requests taken care
> > of the Bret does not have adequate time to function well as the
> > Web Master.
> >
> > > However, we need to find some other
> > > people who can do some other work on the site - for example, technical
> > > enhancements.
> >
> > If you review that archives Vittorio you would already know whom those
> > people are. Obviously you don't take notes on posts here very well if
> > at all. That is a shame and shows a lack of real interests in this organization
> > as well as consideration to the members. Please make an concerted effort
> > to change your ways in this regard.
> > So this time I will list out those whom some time ago volunteered and have the
> > necessary background:
> > Sotiris
> > Walter
> > Jaz - *Recently*
> >
> > > This is why I'd like to give other people (yet to be
> > > identified) access to the site. An alternative is that you coordinate
> > > these other people's work, but I imagine you don't have enough free
> > > time for this.
> >
> > Yo are being too kind here. It has been made terribly obvious that
> > Bret does not have adequate time or interest to even continue as
> > Web master. In any event he has acted in a rogue manner as
> > others have rightly pointed out.
> >
> > >
> > > --
> > > vb. [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a] bertola.eu.org]<---
> > > -------------------> http://bertola.eu.org/ <-----------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
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> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
>
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
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