Re: [atlarge-discuss] the root and the terror

["J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>]

On 10:21 24/01/03, Jeff Williams said:
> I believe in France at one time the queen responded to her subjects
> whom did not have bread to eat, "Let them eat Cake".  Not long
> after she was beheaded.
Never known if the reposnse was actuelly true. But the meaning is 
different. The leader of the "poor ladies" claiming for bread was the 
king's cousin (who voted the death as he wanted to be the people's king) 
and many of the ladies of the riot were men in disguise. The idea was 
exactly the same the one we discuss : poverty is not the reason of the 
terrorism but it provides terrorists or more in motivates some riches in 
becoming terrorist. There were some poverty left, so the poors were reasons 
for others to be upset. But mostly the reason why to get the richess of the 
others (the Republic _sold_ the property of the Nobles and of Church, when 
they tell you they killed Nobles and burnt castle, many agreed to low the 
value of the castle. Terror roughly killed 33.000 people. Really too bad, 
all the more many brillant people and priests we would haved needed 
afteward were killed. But how many a single battle of Napoleon?)

FYI the richess per capita is a good figure to know revolution risks in 
every country. Starving people do not think to built a revolution, riots 
out of despair yet, not revolution: you need to be feed to think. However 
again, starving people are used.

In 1780, France was at one of its richest level and the call of deputations 
was to discuss how to best manage it. You have to be able to foot the cost 
of a revolution. Just remember that between 1788, the date of the decision 
to call on national representatives and 1812 the date Napoleon signed the 
creation of the French National Theather in burning Moscow, we had the 
money to invade (success or not the cost is the same): Ireland, Spain, 
Portugal, Italy, Belgium, Netherlands, Egypt, Germany, Austria, Russia, 
fight UK and Sweden, to free Poland and a few others. These were quite 
expensive 25 years (10 years less than the time to build the net). And 
after? No Marshal plan. 15 years later on we invade Africa and start 
building an Empire. 40 years later on the same in Mexico. Awfull lot of 
money and technology. I do think GW Bush should carefully read the French 
Kings and Napoleonic history. Napoleon had his Ben Laddens: they were the 
French Royalists (nearly killed him a few times and made him to make his 
biggest mistakes). He was bond to fight England because of them (he signed 
a peace with England for one year). At that time oil was not the key, but 
the key was also business. The fight was not over Iraq but over Belgium as 
the continental gate of England.

>   BTW Holger and Jefsey, how many poor people have you
> helped directly feed today?  If your answer is none, than you
> are also two minds that need changing...
At least one (me) and hopefully the three others of my familly.
And hopefully many many others through my political and technical fight for 
25 years now for a true, efficient, open, respectfull of the human being, 
soul and culture; datacommunication _services_ (not merchant information 
and communications _products_).

jfc



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