Re: [atlarge-discuss] My two cents...

[Joe Baptista <baptista@dot-god.com>]

YJ - so you've been involved in this little effort.  I'm seeing a pattern
here - i.e. how this effort died on the operating table.

your someone i do not trust - my little two faced china doll.

ok so - this icann at large was actually an icann red herring.  I see all
the old icann players here.

carry on YJ - i'll get back in my theatre seat.

regards
joe baptista

Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god

   Nuclear Research and Consultancy Group http://www.nrg.low/

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, YJ Park wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> First of all, I appreciate our active panelists and members
> who have been hosekeeping our base with their endless
> energies and contributions.
>
> As inactive member of the ICANNatLarge.org's panelists,
> I do share my concerns why we have failed to do achieve
> our missions and goals as we had expected and suggest how
> we should overcome this hurdle.
>
> I don't want to blame anybody in this course especially within
> ICANNatlarge.org and if there should be a person who should
> be responsible for it, I admit I can be one of those people.
>
> Here is my observation about our organization, ICANNatlarge.org
>
> 1.1. Lack of trust among the panel members
>
> It ends up with every single decision including administrative
> one was forced to be tabled for voting and it made panel feel
> exhausted and walk away step by step.
>
> 1.2. Different visions among the panel members
>
> Some want to work within the ICANN structure and others
> refused to be within ICANN. More independent approach
> was tabled and caused controversy which ended up with
> distrust again.
>
> 1.3. Different strategies among the panel members
>
> Some want to create local at-large and others want to
> unify every local efforts into global one. Some advocated
> at-large group should be specialized in technical expertise
> and ask panel to address those issues as leaders. Others
> were focused on more At-Large infrastucture building process
> as framework.
>
> 2. Reality Check
>
> 2.1. Lack of participation and spammers
>
> We see very limited regular participation either from members
> or from panelist who usually say different things in their own
> voices not being interested in listening to the others. Therefore,
> this list is filled up with fighters' spirit and made people turned off.
>
> 2.2. Tensions with ICANN's own At-Large organizing effort
>
> Our substnatial energies have been spent to deal with
> ICANN's own At-Large organization efforts. Some have
> experessed their concerns what if this organization is not
> included as an authentic organization by ICANN at-large
> coordiators. Some didin't want to have any cooperation with
> ICANN at all.
>
> When ICANNatlarge.org meeting was held in Amsterdam,
> we have witnessed "four" people show up. Except Vittorio
> and myself and the other two came to our meeting who were
> initially sitting and waiting for ICANN's at-large meeting in
> other room then. When ICANN's At-Large meeting was held
> in other room, we have seen all of sudden more than 15 - 20
> or so people to discuss at-large in a more active manner.
>
> 3. Future Action Items
>
> 3.1. To continue as it is preparing our 2nd panel election
>
> Despite piled complaints, we should keep going on if this
> group really wants to move forward and prepare for the 2nd
> election hoping they can work better than the first panelists.
>
> 3.2. To participate in the WSIS process as civil society
>
> I have attended two WSIS regional meetings recently and
> I saw potential for an organization like us to play an important
> role to build cooperation with other parties. Some panelists
> are expected to work on this from now on to get accredited
> in order to participate in the process and to share our mission
> with the diverse stakeholders.(Other civil society groups, the
> governments, Private sector)
>
> 3.3. To participate in the ICANN process as At-Large group
>
> As some of us have done, we still have to be inside ICANN
> as part of At-Large structure to be heard and reflected in the
> decision-making process.
>
> 3.4. To organize local At-Large groups and start to exchange
> information on each At-Large community
>
> As recommended by some, we may re-try to start to organize
> local At-Large groups and begin to communicate each other
> as local at-large groups.
>
> Hoping this observation and suggestion can be of help to this
> whole process......
>
> Sincerely,
> YJ
>
>


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