Re: [atlarge-discuss] The coming election

["Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>]

Abel

I respect the seriousness of your comments, and I respect you.

Let's just let the members decide.

I agree that it is essential that ALL members are involved in that decision.

I don't advocate 'revolt' but adherence to the members' wishes.

That's all. Let's find out what those wishes are.

Kind regards,

Richard

----- Original Message -----
From: Abel Wisman <abel@able-towers.com>
To: 'Richard Henderson' <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>;
<atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:17 PM
Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] The coming election


> Richard.
>
> Despite me liking you, and respecting you, I do sincerely think the
> value you adhere to the totally non representative outcome of the straw
> poll, in which 220 of 1000 members were unable to vote, many of whom are
> active members, of which 25 % could have turned your current outcome
> 100% around, is getting preposterous.
>
> If you want to save this organization then pls in concurrence with the
> remaining panel members get out a decently controlled poll to ALL
> members and then decide.
> I am not against new elections, I am not against democracy, I do believe
> the straw poll meant something, but not enough to bet my life  on.
>
> I did not get an invite, neither did Bruce, and neither did 220 others.
>
> Get real please, democracy has nothing to do with revolt. Usually that
> is what kills it.
>
> Abel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 16 February 2003 15:26
> To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] The coming election
>
>
> Jefsey wrote:
> "Vittorio,
> I already called for that election. Richard is no more a member."
>
> * * * * * * * *
>
> Jefsey and Vittorio,
>
> Just to clarify:
> I am no longer a panel member.
> However, I am still very much a *member* of the organisation.
>
> I am looking forward to:
>
> (a) Confirmation that new elections will go ahead at the earliest
> opportunity
> (b) Use of Polling system to define terms of these elections
> (c) The elections
> (d) A new panel which will subordinate itself to the policies defined by
> its membership
>
> I will be seeking candidates who will collectively stand for election on
> this principle of "the membership determining policy through regular use
> of the Polling process, and a panel which is subordinated to the
> decisions of the membership". Coupled with this, I will be seeking the
> right of every member to submit questions worded as they see fit, and a
> democratic process for prioritising these questions, based on selection
> *by the members* - NOT by the panel or a polling commission. I will not
> be seeking election to the panel myself, because I want to operate from
> the membership itself, which should hold the actual power for decision
> making.
>
> I have not left this organisation, but I am seeking a "bottom up"
> democratic process for it.
>
> This election will have at least ONE party fielding candidates, along
> the lines Joop has often suggested, and this party will stand on the
> principle of members defining and determining policy, with a panel under
> their command.
>
> My best wishes,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
>
>
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