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Re: [atlarge-discuss] ELECTIONS AND REVIVAL ORGANIZATION ????
At 03:35 a.m. 21/02/2003, J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
Due to the moderate interest by this list in the election that many have
shouted for I wander if I must cotinue to proceed?
Not "moderate interest", Jefsey. I interpret the silence as agreement that
an election is needed.
But democracy cannot be hurried. It is a slow process to proceed when for
every step some consensus is needed.
1. I have asked Joop to prepare the boot. He asked clarifications IRT the
definition of what we would vote for. I responde an 11 members Panel,
managing the web site and the Membership list, incorporating and entering
into MoUs subject to the Memership approval for everything else - what
addresses in a simple and in orderly way what the most vociferous asked
for. This for six months if there is no incorporation, one year otherwise.
I am willing to Poll the membership on a series of choices for a Panel
mandate and either hold the elections at the same time, or immediately
afterwards.
To hold elections immediately afterwards is better, as we know then who to
Nominate for which role.
It is also best practice to let the voters adopt some rules of procedure
BEFORE the Panel or any other elected Officer sits down, or else we may end
in chaos again.
Now we all need to know if he will provide the booth or if he too will
quit :-)
I will help. Please do not rush me. I am already multi-tasking.
2. I have asked Joop that the Panel Members may act as Voting Controllers.
I want to be one. I suppose Bruce, Vittorio and others from the Panel
(including the waintinglist) may want to be one too.
I propose that Voting Watchers be only 2 and will ask non-panel members
such as Walt Schmidt and Jan Siren. ( I hope they will find time to report
on the last Poll, which they watched)
I do not think any Panel Member or candidate should be involved with the
Polling at all.
3. We have nominated people on this list and on the Forum. I wish there
are others, but we can proceed. I may send them a mail to ask them if they
accept being candidate.
If we proceed on this basis, without a proper membership-wide announced
Nomination Period and a time for the members to question their candidates,
we set icannatlarge up for failure, again.
4. We have a first proposed country to incorporate, I hope we have another
one.
All in good time.
Let the members first discuss the merits of the place of incorporation and
determine *what* we are incorporating there. (a Party, a Club, a loose
network, an Umbrella structure or what)
If there is support to proceed, the plan I proposed can be easily
executed, we may start voting on Sunday if enough candidates, or the other
Sunday if we need more. We can also reduce the Panel to 7 if there are not
candidates enough. But I must say that if we do not vote for a panel now,
I think there is something broken in this group after so many demands (or
the demands did not represented whatthe Members wanted?). I keep with my
target to incorporate in March and to sign MoUs with Joop (Polling Booth),
DPF (his initaitive), Danny (his SME contituency), me (atlarge/ws) and may
be others in April, after the Members voted them.
Sorry, Jefsey. This timetable is unrealistic for a democracy, given the
fact that we do not even have agreed Bylaws.
Nothing is broken. Give the multi-taskers the time to come together and
agree on how to proceed from the wishes the members expressed in the last Poll.
Leave a few weeks for further Polling to sharpen the picture of what the
members agree on.
THEN we close Nominations and elect a new Panel.
Everybody can speed this up by proposing their own Questions for the Booth.
I am ready to start a Poll on the
1. Number of Panelists (3 options)
2. Mandate of the Panel (3 options)
3. Other elected Officers needed (3 options)
4. List of people from which to tick preferred Nominees for Panel.
5. List of people from which to tick preferred Nominees for Polling
Commission. (if this is desired by the members)
6. further poll (depends on outcome of 3)
With these data published on the website, a Nomination period can be
announced membership wide on this list and in the Forum.
Of course nothing stops people from starting to post their early
nominations here or in the Forum.
Build your foundation first, then the upper structure.
-joop-
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