RE: [atlarge-discuss] "Out of Pocket"/Election status

[<bruce@barelyadequate.info>]

Thanks, Ladies!

Bruce Young
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|  -----Original Message-----
|  From: espresso@e-scape.net [mailto:espresso@e-scape.net]
|  Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 2:33 PM
|  To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
|  Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] "Out of Pocket"/Election status
|  
|  
|  At 06:58 -0800 2003/03/06, Jan Siren wrote:
|  >[...]
|  >It is important to note that the vast majority of entries appear to
|  >agree
|  >letter-for letter, as expected.  However, the numbers of entries do
|  >not
|  >agree.  Within the first ~one hundred entries, each list has a few
|  >random
|  >names that the other lacks.  If my sampling is representative, overall
|  >>there
|  >might be from twenty to as many as a hundred such "randomly"
|  >unduplicated
|  >names/addresses.  Apart from that, Vittorio's list ends with 30
|  >entries
|  >beyond the end of Joop's list.  In my opinion, there is no a priori
|  >reason >to
|  >discriminate against any of the unduplicated entries.  The full list
|  >of
|  >icannatlarge members, when compiled from both lists, will be somewhat
|  >over
|  >1100 entries.
|  
|  Dear Jan et al.,
|  
|  Your update is most helpful and we can hope that a majority of
|  those 1100+ members would be interested in participating in
|  the upcoming elections and polls.
|  
|  >I can (given time) compile a complete list of the *unduplicated*
|  >entries.
|  >
|  >However, I lack the tools to create a combined master list, ready for
|  >use >for
|  >mass mailing (perhaps Judyth can?).
|  
|  Like Jan, I will of necessity be "hors de combat" for a few days
|  due to pressures of work and real life.
|  
|  Combining the two files and deleting duplicated entries should
|  not be too difficult, assuming the two are set up more-or-less
|  similarly. The more differences in database structure, the
|  longer it takes to combine them but it is easy enough once
|  they have been combined.
|  
|  >Nor can I perform a mass mailing, even
|  >if the combined list were in my possession.  Those tasks may have to
|  >be >borne by others.
|  
|  My computing setup wasn't intended for bulk-mailing and I'm not
|  a fan of spam-friendly bulk-mailing sites. Besides, I'd expect
|  at least some of our members to be equipped with spam-filters
|  of one kind or another and some of these are NOT adequately
|  sophisticated. I've just come across one which automatically
|  trashes any message containing the word "secret", for example,
|  which rather handicaps anyone trying to communicate about
|  running secret ballots! Other filters are much better but
|  reject mail on a point system which disfavours messages sent
|  to more than 20 recipients at a time in Bcc, and I can't see
|  myself having time or disk-space for 50+ separate sendings
|  of the same message just now.
|  
|  The alternatives rather depend on the results of my mini-ballot.
|  If it authorizes transferring the membership list to people
|  who have their own servers and unlimited access, it should
|  be possible for one of them to set up a means of automating
|  an "all-members" announcement-only list which new members
|  could be added to automatically. If it's left up to Jan and
|  me, I dare say we could each take half the addresses and send
|  the desired message text one way or another. I can probably
|  do the mail-merge if I have to...
|  
|  Regards,
|  
|  Judyth
|  
|  
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