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RE: [atlarge-discuss] Real world nominations
Dear all,
After carefull consideration, and looking somewhat into the near future as
in terms of time management, I have decided to honour the nomination I was
honoured to receive.
I will send a short cv at the start of the weekend and make that available
online at the same time.
Thanks
Abel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:jefsey@club-internet.fr]
> Sent: 07 May 2003 22:46
> To: zip@laposte.net
> Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Real world nominations
>
>
> Dear Claude,
> On 16:16 07/05/03, zip said:
> >They believe that sending nastymails make them popular, IMHO
> it makes
> >them
> >judged, and kill our crediblity. So not to judge them I went
> away after
> >having tried to help.
>
> True, with the nice gift to reroute your mails from this list
> to my address
> when you left. Took one week to kill that.
>
> >I saw that there was an ultimate chance and I came back. I even
> >registered. I will now bring my own block to the building of
> this community:
> >
> >- I nominate specially Mr. Abel Towers. At the GA and on
> this list, as
> >well as through some professionnal links I learned about him
> as a true
> >hope for practical at-large development.
>
> Noted. Abel is already nminated and seconded. But I
> understand you respond
> to is request. Thank you.
>
> >- I nominate again Mr. Hugh Blair. So Mr. Sotiropoulos will stop
> >fighting
> >him. I do not support some of Mr. Blair positions at the GA, but he
> >participates with what is often after all my opinion.
>
> Hugh Blair was nominated and seconded already. The conditions
> that Bruce
> detailed is that we accept nominations from everywhere and
> report them in
> here and on icannatlarge.org. So we accepted direct mails to Polling
> Committee Memebres as well as posts on this list and nominations on
> iacannatlarge.com. I make also sur that icannatlarge.com
> receives all the
> information. The only problem we faced was that
> icannatlarge.com did not
> follow the dates we had voted and published. This has been
> clarified now.
>
> >- I wish to nominate Carina Ren as our Member in Beijin.
>
> Noted. I do not know her, but I support paying a tribute to
> China. Also we
> need Members with the experience of the IDN to help us
> through the IDNA
> process. I second this nomination.
>
> >- Jefsey proposed yesterday a list of nominees. I shared in most of
> >that
> >list. I did it for a friend from a country where you can go
> to jail for
> >doing that (if you are ignorant enough about that, too bad for you).
>
> You know I know who you mean. There is a committee in France
> and in several
> European countries (may be also in the USA and Canada and I
> understand one
> in Brasil to support one of his friends, a newsman in jail). I am to
> rewrite a paper fro them on how the Internet might permit
> both people like
> him and his Gov to match their targets. We are not here to fight each
> other, butto build and maintain bridges (then they may fight over the
> bridges :-) .
>
> A good point for SMSI. Why not to ask YJ Park to join on
> thiis once the
> vote is over and create a commitee on that ? ICANN is not important.
> Together we can do far more that ALAC and then to do the ALAC
> job as a
> by-product. I will see if we cannot post a question on that
> for the ballot?
> Would you help? Give me a ring if you want.
>
> >The idea is the following: we need new blood in this community. Real
> >blood
> >from the real world, aside of the IDNO croonies. So we went
> into the list
> >and tried to figure out who from the various parts of the
> world could help
> >this list getting real. Thinking about the users and their needs and
> >forgetting ICANN. This list is not perfect, sometimes
> random, but we tried
> >our best to make it significant. The nomminees will decide
> if they want to
> >be a candidate. Their communities desserve being nominated.
> Therefore I
> >nominate them ALL in the open and I do hope someone else or
> Jefsey will
> >second them ALL as he did for Joop's ones. I hope everyone
> accepts that
> >these people from the real second, third or in one case
> forth world are
> >worth the same as those from the icannatalrge.com Forum.
> Does someone want
> >to challenge that?
>
> At this time I (one hour to go to 00/00 GMT) I can clarify my
> position. One
> of our "serious" Members (ICANN influent) threaten me. With a
> similar idea
> to yours. But more drastic : he nominated every member
> because he wanted to
> have self-nominations. I did not think it was wise, and at
> this time I
> think it would have created havoc. So we compromised; he accepted to
> nominate the people I would nominate and I would second
> everyone someone
> else would nominate.
>
> Your idea is better, because it has been worked on. May be
> the people you
> nominated are not the right one right now, but everyone
> maybecome the right
> one as we are here just te represent others. They may realize
> whet they can
> bring to us and feel which new role as a Rep for their
> community they may
> have. You should have come earlier with it.
>
> >We need to have - like at the WSIS or at the ITU - mailing lists in
> >Spanish, Chinese, Arabic, etc. and French too.
>
> As you know, dear "non-member of france@large", this is
> something I fight
> for for a long. Why not to help @home too, and only @large >:-) ? .
> >There is a WSIS meeting on the 12th in Paris where ISOC will present
> >ICANN, users etc. We must be able to document that election as a
> >multilateral ALTERNATIVE to the ICANN unilateralism
>
> I would suggest you help us with http://dot-root.com then.
> What you say is
> true in theory. But we have to make it real in demonstrating
> it, in testing
> it. This community may help demonstrating it at "people
> layer". We have
> also to demostrate it among operators (ISPs), registries
> (TLDs), national
> communities (ccTLDs, GAC, ITU), as well as at DNS and root
> operations layer.
>
> Once we demonstrated it everywhere people will relax, and we
> will have
> gained a lof experience ICANN is missing. Do you really
> believe that Louis
> Touton has the capacity to take a technical decision on the
> DNS management
> of the world's network? Or the Crispy Brothers? You have to
> be mad, as
> now-gone Joe Sims, to believe you can decide by your own :-). Ask Jun
> Murai. Then just do not know if three new TLDs will not kill
> the whole root
> system. And they have no test bed ....
>
> jfc
>
>
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