Re: [atlarge-discuss] My Candidacy Information

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ron and all fellow members,

  Although I agree with you that democracy works far better with "Good"
diplomacy.  We here as members of the ICANNATLARGE.ORG
have had far to little of "Good" Diplomacy as we are made up
of mostly users, stakeholders, or both.  Very few folks in
any atlarge of users would have diplomatic experience of any
significant tenure.  However I also must agree strongly with
Sotiris in both content and tone in his remarks to which you
are referring to in your response (See below).

  One must also recognize that diplomacy is often misused as an excuse
to not accomplish something that is obviously needed to be accomplished,

such as the removal of Saddam's regime in Iraq.  Many times as well
we have seen and witnessed ICANN BOD and staff members
hide behind the excuse of diplomacy to disenfranchise
stakeholders/users.
I believe Sotiris tone of his comments/remarks reflect the results
of such needless and fruitless use of diplomacy, and rightly so.
The representation of stakeholders/users is hard ball politics and has
been sense MdR 2000.

Ron Sherwood wrote:

>    Dear Sotiris:
>
> No one is questioning your experience or the work that you have done
> on
> behalf of the @large community.  However, if you expect the rest of
> the
> world to be represented here by persons with only your experience and
> history, you will end up with a panel of one.  Dictatorship may work
> from
> your perspective, but that is not what I understand our goal to be.
>
> Your totally negative attitude towards anyone who does not do things
> your
> way, or whom you don't think worthy of your support, is counter
> productive
> to our cause. Also you are setting a very bad example when you bring
> the
> level of discourse down to one of shouting abuse at anyone of whom you
>
> disapprove.
>
> Please remember that democracy works better when diplomacy is
> involved.  The
> iron fist is far more effective when clothed in the velvet glove.
> Surely it
> is in our best interests to have skilled and experienced members, like
> you,
> gain the trust and respect of those they should be representing.  Your
>
> attitude recently has done little to engender that respect, but rather
> will
> cause you lose the votes that you would otherwise gain.  Many people
> are
> tired of the un-called for, and vulgar, attacks that are such a
> turn-off on
> this list.  It is a shame that you have lowered your standards so much
> that
> you are now one of the perpetrators of this distasteful and
> destructive
> practice.
>
> Because I do not want this third attempt at a Panel to be destroyed by
> such
> anti-social and destructive behavior, you have lost my vote.
>
> Regards, Ron Sherwood.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> To: <atlarge@curtis.kularski.us>
> Cc: <icann@kularski.org>; <micheal@beethoven.com>;
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] My Candidacy Information
>
>
> > Curtis Kularski wrote:
> >
> > >As long as you
> > > dont vote for Sotiris I don't care how you vote.
> >
> > Oh yes, that's really good... don't vote for the only current
> candidate
> who
> > has actual experience in Chairing an ICANN workgroup and producing a
>
> > submission to the BoD:
> >
> >
> http://forum.icann.org/cgi-bin/rpgmessage.cgi?dnsoreview1;3ADB39BF00000043
>
> >
> > Got anything that compares?  For that matter, do any of the other
> > candidates have any of their work on ICANN matters to show us?  Or
> are we
> > simply to take their word on their qualifications?
> >
> > --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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