Re: [atlarge-discuss] Is This The Party To Whom I Am Speaking...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Bruce and all fellow members,

bruce@barelyadequate.info wrote:

> Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
>
> |  You were not elected at all.  You happened to be a candidate in the last
> |  election  who LOST!  You were "promoted" by Vittorio Bertola from a
> |  loser into a panelist when everyone else had either dropped out or
> |  disappeared.
>
> Let's be clear.  Policy adopted by this group prior to the last election
> mandated that if a Panel member resigned, the next person in line was
> elevated.

  This is true Bruce, but does not and did not apply any longer
or further when the Panel was devolved or otherwise done
away with via the poll that Joop took and a representative sample
of the members voted in favor to remove that Panel in favor of electing
a new panel.

>  I was voted #12, so when Joanna Lane resigned from the Panel (for
> good cause, if you'll remember, given her circumstances) I was asked if I
> would, in accordance with established procedure, agree to serve on the
> Panel.  I didn't push my way in, I was invited nder what passes for our
> current rules.  You as much as anyone else are responsible for us not having
> bylaws down on paper that more-succintly handled the issue.
>
> |  In any country in the world, the
> |  last thing that happens when a government dissolves is for the losers in
> |  the last election to be considered the "elected" government simply
> |  because they recived a few votes (but ultimately LOST !)
>
> You are trying to judge this process by European Parlamentary rules.  In
> this country, we don't "dissolve a government" when a leader resigns.

  The Panel was not elected originally as "Leaders".  They were not
in any way and "Executive" Branch or this fledgling organization.  In any
event the Panel was not even a representative(s) for the members.  It had
a very specific mandate of tasks to work upon.  This it failed to do,
and as a result lead to it's demise.  This is how it should be.  So your
drawing such a comparison is not really compatible in any way.

>
> Instead we have an order of succession, as in this case.  It is a much
> moretive
> stable process than throwing out the whole government over one leader's
> resignation!  If you'll remember, this parlimentary process was
> remanipulated successfully by Adolph Hitler to gain power by forcing
> election after election until his party had a majority.  I far prefer our
> method!

  First off you have your historical facts incorrect here.  In any event
again ICANNATLARGE.ORG is not a country, and does not yet
even have a set of Bylaws or a Charter.  Hence such comparisons
to a actual government in this sense is incompatible on any footing.

>
>
> |  We have an "election" in which the one person running the "process" (if
> |  it can be so called), is also the same person who nominated and then
> |  FRAUDULENTLY seconded his own nominations,
>
> That's BS.  Get your facts straight.  Joop was the one that mass-seconded
> the nominations from on HIS rogue operation, because he couldn't determine
> who seconded them!

  He did not nominate them though now did he?  Jefsey did the nominating.

>
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon USA
> bruce@barelyadequate.info
> http://www.barelyadequate.info
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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