Re: [atlarge-discuss] Bylaws Discussion [:alternative method:]

["Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>]

Yes Mauro

I agree with you that it is pretty impractical to try to negotiate bylaws,
word by word, and phrase by phrase, on this discuss mailing list. Bylaws are
best generated in smaller groups, and then put to the membership.

However, I suggest that it should *not* only be the panel's draft bylaws
which are presented to the membership for voting on. I suggest that other
versions should be offered as well, so that members can make an informed
choice between the various bylaws.

For example, my proposed bylaws would be radically different to Danny's, in
that they would insist that final power and authority resides with the
membership through a Polling mechanism, giving the Membership the power to
define, to set objectives and to veto/block panel actions.

Only by offering members a range of bylaw drafts can they realistically make
choices.

Therefore, I would like to suggest that members who favour my poll-centred
proposals may like to participate online, to further fine-tune these bylaws,
for presentation for a vote in the near future.

I will stick them up online, article by article, so that this approach can
be developed transparently. I'll post an URL soon. People who agree with the
fundamental premiss are welcome to contact me and participate.

Richard H

----- Original Message -----
From: A/S Mauro D. Ríos <mdrios@adinet.com.uy>
To: <DannyYounger@cs.com>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Cc: <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 7:53 PM
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Bylaws Discussion [:alternative method:]


> Dear all,
>
> It is important the contribution that is making to the project of
statutes,
> but I wonder and I consult them some things:
>
> Do they find that discussing 1000 people a time in the list the writing of
> the statutes will be effective?
>
> I propose that the elect Panel and (I suggest) the commission for the
> writing of the statutes, elaborate a draft of statutes and later put to
> voting of all the members.
>
> The observations will be picked up of all us (the mass of members), they
> edit the observed parts of the draft again and again puts on to
> consideration of the members.
>
> It will be more executive and it will generate an easier pursuit of the
> discussion and analysis of the text. At this time it is easy for that
there
> is little participation in the list, but if only 100 members sink to the
> discussion, it will become impossible to follow the rhythm.
>
> It is only a suggestion, but like I have participated many times of the
> on-line elaboration of documents, bids, statutes, projects, etc., the
> experience forces me to suggest this alternative.
>
> It can seem a very similar method, but it avoids to discuss each term,
each
> word, each sense of a sentence, it allows people that are elaborating the
> document, to take their time to think and to meditate very well each
> article.
>
> Otherwise the texts go arising to the force and edited quickly, corrected
> more quickly, put in the list and again they generate observations, etc.
> Many times more than a person it publishes a correction for the same
> article. It is easier to coordinate the writing in a smaller group that in
> the great mass of members. Once the complete draft is (the one that is in
> discussion is very brief, it is necessary to add many chapters and
> articles), the mass of members is the sovereign power to decide and to
make
> the observations that it estimates necessary.
>
>
> greetings,
> Mauro. -
>
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