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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
Mark and all fellow members,
I am sorry that E-Mail doesn't work for you Mark. But
Michael is seemingly out to eliminate anyone that does
not see things his was. I for one don't see why we
could not set up an IRC Channel and let the members
decide if they wish to participate or not. You can also
log all of what is said in the IRC channel and post it
to a line on the ICANNATLARGE.ORG web site
so those members that are interested can read it
if they like at when they wish to. But I guess that
Michael is not in favor of that either. Oh well, I guess
we should just do whatever Michael says, whenever
he says it without question or preference. <Sarcasim Intended>
Same goes for Pay Pal and Sotiris as well too I suppose...
Do you think or get the impression that maybe Sotiris and
Michael just don't want us as members? Or is it that they
just can't stand not having things exactly as they want them?
And these two guys/members are on the provisional
Membership Committee!! Hummmm? It is going to
get interesting!
MPoole wrote:
> Hi Micheal,
>
> So you are ruling me out because it doesn't work for you. Email is not
> working for me, it is almost 1pm and I am *still* not all the way through
> reading. Am I suppose to trash all this mail? Am I suppose to devote
> every scrambled minute to catching up by the website?
>
> There were some words that mentioned dedication as the definition for
> those who deserve to represent the interests of the Internet Community
> at Large. Dedication to what? The mailing list? That does seem to be
> the ruling order of the day. I don't think it will get any further than the
> first time @Large got booted out of the ring.
>
> This is getting crazy. All I want to do is talk about topics on the list
> with a group of people who are interested in talking about the same thing
> only not have to wait 15 minutes to a half hour for each response.
>
> The list can continue as it will. What I am interested in talking about
> won't be on the list. This is probably the position of the majority of the
> Internet. Who or what is this group?
>
> MPoole
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Micheal Sherrill" <micheal@beethoven.com>
> To: "'Atlarge.Discuss.List'" <"
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>"@p15104972.pureserver.info>
> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
>
> > Hello Mark:
> >
> > Three hundred baud is not the problem. International time zones is the
> problem. And multiple venues is the problem. Why not keep it simple and
> user friendly? You are inserting another, albeit original, way to
> communicate. If we have gone past IRC why do we need to scramble to learn
> the old way?
> >
> > Email, please. It works globally.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Micheal Sherrill
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "MPoole" <urgen@charter.net>
> > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 00:05:53 -0700
> >
> > Oh boy, I'm dating myself here, by responding to email that is beginning
> to
> > collect dust.
> >
> > If there was someone that needed an SMTP interface to IRC we would be more
> > than happy to bend as far as possible to make it work, right? Isn't that
> > the point? Right tool for the job. If it doesn't exist, invent it. This
> > is the Internet after all.
> >
> > I can understand a concern for doing business outside of public venue but
> > that only goes back to addressing the issue that is resisting definition,
> > i.e. membership. Bootstrapping requires a minimum set of components be in
> > place at the time of initialization. We need some volunteers to help
> > explore that minimum set and I was just suggesting a free and easy way to
> > establish that definition of participation as "join the channel and you
> are
> > in." If you still want to help but can't arrive at that level of
> > contribution or are just simply restricted by time zone centric hurdles
> then
> > we'll work around it.
> >
> > The digital divide will create the gap that stops the vehicle, is it the
> gap
> > or the vehicle that is the focus? If the vehicle can help close the gap
> > then there isn't any problem. Email creates as many gaps as it closes
> just
> > saying that it is one of the most common methods of exchange to date only
> > describes the limits of the tools at hand not the capacity of the
> exchange.
> > IRC works great at 300 baud.
> >
> > MPoole
> > sorry for not signing my last post.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>
> > To: "'Atlarge Discuss List'" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:01 AM
> > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
> >
> >
> > > I agree with these limitations immediately, it should not be seen as the
> > > end all solution, just an add-on and a tool that might ease panel
> > > members talking in real time. If such a meeting would every be official
> > > I am sure official minutes would be posted to the website.
> > >
> > > Abel
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi]
> > > > Sent: 01 June 2003 18:47
> > > > To: Hugh Blair; 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> > > > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All Panel members and contributors:
> > > >
> > > > Please, please recognize that we aspire to include and
> > > > represent a global membership. Please, therefore, also
> > > > recognize that bandwidth and online time are not universally
> > > > available or universally affordable. This discuss list,
> > > > and/or other access to text archives must be available to
> > > > those who cannot readily use web based fora. Email is
> > > > universal and must remain the primary communication tool for
> > > > this organization.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you, Ron Sherwood
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Hugh Blair" <hblair@hotfootmail.com>
> > > > To: "'Atlarge Discuss List'" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 11:09 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Open real-time panel meetings
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Abel Wisman
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In order to facilitate the topic of this mail, I suggest
> > > > I set up a
> > > > > > dedicated ircd server for the icannatlarge.org under
> > > > > > irc.icannatlarge.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > IRC is not as accessable as a mail list. At least not for me. I can
> > > > > receive email, redirect email anywhere needed, but actual
> > > > web access
> > > > > is not always available. If you set up an IRC channel,
> > > > unfortunately I
> > > > > won't be attending.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hugh
> >
> >
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