Re: Forwarded: cr> UK ISP association gives police secret briefing

[Rigo Wenning <rigo@fitug.de>]

Via GILC schon abgehandelt....
Es ging hier um geheime Kooperation. Bei uns läuft das 
offen... BKA + DFN-CERT + LKA + Geschädigter....

Rechtslage und Logging liegen bekanntlich weit auseinander. 
Das ist den Datenschützern in DE bewußt. Nur in UK haben 
sie keine.....

Gruss

Rigo


At 10:31 13.02.1999 +0100, Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
>Ist ja vielleicht auch fuer .de zumindest interessant, habs hier noch nicht
>gesehen. Lesen und Spass haben:
>
>>UK ISPA Give Police Secret Briefing and new CR&CL(UK) report launched
>>
>>Cyber-Rights & Cyber-Liberties (UK) has discovered that the Internet
>>Service Providers Association ("ISPA") last year gave a secret
>>briefing to the Association of Chief Police Officers ("ACPO") about
>>the ISP industry capabilities for the provision of information to the
>>police about their customers. This new "Who Watches the Watchmen"
>>report therefore brings into the open what your ISP can do for the
>>police with your Internet account.
>>
>>The publication of this new report entitled "Who Watches the Watchmen:
>>Part III - ISP Capabilities for the Provision of Personal Information
>>to the Police,"
>>(<http://www.cyber-rights.org/privacy/watchmen-iii.htm>) follows the
>>development of a "privacy letter" from the consumer's perspective by
>>the Leeds based organisation, and an exchange of letters between
>>Cyber-Rights & Cyber-Liberties (UK) and the ACPO/ISPs and the
>>Government Forum in December 1998.
>>
>>Mr Yaman Akdeniz (lawya@cyber-rights.org), director of Cyber-Rights &
>>Cyber-Liberties (UK) stated that:
>>
>>"With all these possibilities and capabilities for the provisions of
>>information through the ISPs to the police, the ISPA runs the risk of
>>becoming the Big Brother Providers Association. The leaked report
>>shows that our concerns were fully justified, and that secrecy, rather
>>than `media disinformation' was at work with the activities of the
>>ACPO/ISPs Forum."
>>
>>Mr Nicholas Bohm (nbohm@cyber-rights.org), E-Commerce Policy Adviser
>>for Cyber-Rights & Cyber-Liberties (UK) added:
>>
>>"The police need help to understand how to deal with Internet crime,
>>and ISPA is of course free to give them that help. But ISPs also have
>>responsibilities to their customers, and for ISPA to produce a report
>>in secret for the benefit of the police is bound to send out
>>completely the wrong message. ISPA should have been open about it, so
>>that there can be proper debate and public understanding of the
>>difficult issues involved. Getting the best out of the Internet
>>depends on public confidence in it and its operators, and secret
>>reports are no way to build confidence."
>>
>>The new Watchmen report concludes that "transparency, openness and
>>accountability are important features of a healthy society. We believe
>>it is now time for the Government through the Parliament to intervene
>>in the activities of the ACPO/ISPs, Government Forum and clarify these
>>matters including the laws in relation to interception of
>>communications and the relevant procedures."
>>
>>Notes for the Media:
>>
>>This press release will be available at
>>http://www.cyber-rights.org/press
>>
>>Cyber-Rights & Cyber-Liberties (UK), "Who Watches the Watchmen: Part
>>III - ISP Capabilities for the Provision of Personal Information to
>>the Police," February 1999, at
>>http://www.cyber-rights.org/privacy/watchmen-iii.htm
>>
>>UK Internet Users Privacy Letter is at
>><http://www.cyber-rights.org/privacy/letter.htm>
>>
>>Contact Information:
>>
>>Mr Yaman Akdeniz, director
>>Address: Centre For Criminal Justice Studies, University of Leeds, LS2
>>9JT. Direct Telephone: +44 498 865116 Fax: 0113- 2335056 E-mail:
>>lawya@cyber-rights.org
>>
>>Mr Nicholas Bohm, E-Commerce Policy Adviser,
>>Phone: 01279 871272 (+44 1279 871272)
>>Fax: 01279 870215 (+44 1279 870215)
>>E-mail: nbohm@cyber-rights.org
>>
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>>Yaman Akdeniz <lawya@leeds.ac.uk>
>>Cyber-Rights & Cyber-Liberties (UK) at: http://www.cyber-rights.org
>>
>>Read the new CR&CL (UK) Report, Who Watches the Watchmen, Part:II
>>Accountability & Effective Self-Regulation in the Information Age,
>>August 1998 at http://www.cyber-rights.org/watchmen-ii.htm
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