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frage zu usenet2
- To: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Subject: frage zu usenet2
- From: email@example.com (Karl Dietz)
- Date: 04 Mar 1999 21:55:00 +0100
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- Organization: Karl Dietz
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hallo debate, was ist davon zu halten? gruesse. karl
URL : http://www.usenet2.org
What is Usenet II?
Usenet II is an attempt to create a structure where the traditional
Usenet model of cooperation and trust can be made to work in the
Internet of the 21st century.
We think that with a pretty minimal set of restrictions on abusive
behaviour we can establish an environment where something like Usenet
can prosper, the way it used to be.
And what does "the way it used to be" mean? Well, it doesn't mean a
perfect place where nobody ever disagrees, nobody ever says anything
mean or nasty, or even necessarily where that behaviour is the
exception. There have always been groups where flaming is the norm.
We're not going to try to make Usenet II into some sort of "nice"
place, and we don't think we should try. But it used to be that Usenet
was a place where people communicated with people. Where people,
whether they were being nice or not, were there because they wanted to
These days, well, there's a lot of people who for money or simply
entertainment seem to think that it's something else. Free advertising
space, a convenient anonymous file drop, or even a distributed web
site and FTP server for their customers. Russ Allbery wrote a fine
rant on that subject, which is reproduced here.
And then there are people who get their kicks by breaking things.
They've always been around, too, but in the past they've been
constrained by the difficulty of getting, and keeping, access to
Usenet. Usenet II access is not a right, the way Usenet access has
become. This isn't to say that we'll prevent anyone from posting to
Usenet II just because of who they are, but if they can't cooperate
they'll have a much harder time finding an open site to launch their
Questions and answers.
How do you plan to do this?
With the Usenet II Rules, rules.txt, and various automatic
tools and monitors that enforce them, which brings us to the
most commonly asked question:
Why did my message get cancelled?
Either it violated one of the rules in a way that the automatic
monitor caught, or it was posted without the appropriate magic
dust being added by your ISP to tag it as a Usenet II message.
If that's the case, then your ISP is probably not part of
Usenet II. Have a look further down this list to see how to
Who's behind this?
The Usenet II hierarchy managers (Czars), czars.txt will be
doing most of the hard work, delegated to them by the gophers
in the Usenet II Steering Committee, committee.txt. (mug
What's this stuff about Czars and Fiefs and other scary medieval
If we called them "electronic janitors" we wouldn't get nearly
as many volunteers for the job, now would we?
The most important part of a czar's job is simply to manage the
namespace they're responsible for. Coming up with names of
groups has been, oddly enough, the biggest problem in Usenet I
after spam. Rather than leave it to the populace or have some
kind of central naming committee we have people who understand
and care about the subject matter handling it.
Is that really how you spell it?
What? Czar? We had a whole bunch of discussion about that in
the various mailing lists that started all this stuff. We think
so. If we're wrong, well, it's only a name.
What's Usenet II consist of?
The current groups are listed in groups.txt, with the
linky-linky version in groups.html.
You can feed checkgroups.txt straight to, well, you know
How do I, as a user, get involved?
ask your administrator to join, or
obtain an account with an ISP that already belongs, or
obtain an account at a news service, such as newsguy.com,
How do I, as an administrator, get involved?
If you've set up your site and have an outgoing feed post to
net.config.feed-requests, or find a feed through Jeff
Fisher's site list at usenet2.ies-energy.com. (We had a
mail-news gateway for net.config.feed-requests, but we've
closed it down because people were spamming Usenet II through
it) You can get details on how to set up your news server in
details.txt. The INN patch mentioned is in
What are we doing about junk email?
Some suggestions for staying Usenet II compliant without losing
your mailbox to that wretched hive of scum and villainy we all
know and love. The best hope right now is of course CAUCE.
The current Usenet II public key will always be available in
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