[atlarge-discuss] Re: [nc-transfer] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] WLS proposal

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Barbara and all,

  We [INEGroup] agree with you here Barbara, and are in process of
contacting the appropriate senate and House members that are
involved in this rather arcane and misguided legislation being considered.

  I personally would suggest that anyone concerned about their personal
safety, and privacy that are Domain Name holders do likewise without
delay...

Barbara Simons wrote:

> I agree that accurate information should be provided for the technical
> liaison.  What I'm saying is that a law that makes it a felony to provide
> inaccurate information for the domain name holder creates major problems
> regarding political speech, shelters for battered women, children who own
> their own domain name, etc.  The whois database is an open invitation for
> massive privacy invasion of domain name owners (as opposed to technical
> contacts).  HR 4640 would make it a felony in the U.S., punishable by up to
> 5 years in prison, to provide false address information for the owner of a
> domain name.  This would be a boon to trademark holders who are eager to
> send out large numbers of cease and desist letters, and a blow to people who
> care about protecting our privacy.
>
> I didn't mean to start a discussion about HR 4640, though I hope that this
> has helped to make our US based members aware of this misguided legislative
> proposal.
>
> Regards,
> Barbara
>
> On 6/17/02 5:03 PM, "todd glassey" <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
> > The problem is more than just the submission of a false credential, it is
> > the operations of the Registrar with that false credential that compounds
> > the problem. I would suggest that an additional requirements such that the
> > registrars were required to ping each one of the addresses that their domain
> > managers have supplied and any that bounce more than once are flamed, and
> > the domain is pulled and held in suspense for an additional 30 days.
> >
> > If you have a domain and you don't know whether its up or down in a months
> > time then its not too important and well should be flamed.
> >
> > Todd Glassey
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James Love" <james.love@cptech.org>
> > To: <simons@acm.org>
> > Cc: <james.love@cptech.org>; <marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>;
> > <nc-transfer@dnso.org>; <discuss@icann-ncc.org>
> > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 4:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nc-transfer] Re: [ncdnhc-discuss] WLS proposal
> >
> >
> >> My proposal was *not* an endorsement of any US legislation.   What I mean
> >> by "accurate" whois data is that the person expressing interest in an
> >> expired domain has to be a real person, with a real billing address.
> >> That is already a requirement in the gTLD registry contracts.  It could be
> >> any real person, including a real person who is doing it for someone else.
> >>  This is in the context of a one person one chance lottery over expired
> >> domains.    If you did not think you could address the one person one
> >> chance approach, you could have a lottery among registrars, which are
> >> unique.
> >>   Jamie
> >>
> >>
> >>> Jamie,
> >>> What do you mean by "accurate" whois data?  Does this mean that you
> >>> support HR 4640, which would make it a felony to provide inaccurate
> >>> information, even including address info of the domain name holder?
> >>> I'm sure you appreciate the privacy implications of requiring domain
> >>> name owners, eg parents who have purchased domain names for their kids,
> >>> to provide their physical addresses.
> >>> Barbara
> >>> P.S.  While it's important that accurate whois information be provided
> >>> for the technical contact, I see no compelling reason for providing
> >>> accurate address information about the owner of the domain name.
>
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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