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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] elections
- To: todd glassey <todd.glassey@worldnet.att.net>
- Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] elections
- From: eric@hi-tek.com
- Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2002 07:08:19 -0700
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Look up Qui Tam.
todd glassey wrote:
> Actually if we were really obnoxious we could file another suit claiming
> that ICANN fraudulently represents the interests of the "world" and that
> there is in fact no method of the "World's" participating otherwise the
> ICANN would have some open tie-in with the UN and a global endorsement of
> the UN to operate the UN's namespace. Hmmmm. UN's Name Space. What a
> concept.
>
> In it (the lawsuit) we could petition the state of California to suspend the
> corporate status until these critical legal issues are resolved.
>
> So why would this fly?
>
> 1) ICANN has failed to meet the terms of its own charter and goals.
> It is specifically stated as being "incompetent" in its current form, but no
> public input, from those that ICANN represents, has been formally used in
> the restructuring of ICANN only its own, so while ICANN agrees publicly that
> its broken, it will only take its own suggestions for fixing it. The net
> effect is that it is giving ICANN a second bite at the apple. And - based in
> this and ICANN's other actions, it clearly is not the representative of
> anything but its own interests, and that is clearly a very serious problem.
>
> 2) By law, US Corporations, let alone California Corporations, MUST
> operate when doing International Business, by a very precise set of extended
> rules, including applying for and being granted waivers for dealing with the
> "prohibited" nations. I may be wrong, but I didn't see any waivers from US
> Dept of State that allow for ICANN to serve addresses into Syria or Iraq, or
> ... You see my point.
>
> 3) A corporation is setup to benefit some group of people. ICANN was
> setup along the model of a public trust, that is a service bureau that does
> something for the people it serves, only to do this ***there must be*** some
> process put in place to determine how successful or how accurately the
> organization was at following its own bylaws and their amendments and from a
> "public Trust" point of view ICANN has done none of this that I have seen
> making it also vulnerable at the California Secretary of State's office.
>
> Am I crazy Karl or what? Your are a lawyer and you have one suit pending
> already
>
> Todd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Young" <Bruce@barelyadequate.info>
> To: "At-Large Discussion List" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:34 PM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] elections
>
> > todd glassey wrote:
> >
> > >ICANN should have relatively little to say in how this group operates
> > >itself.
> >
> > It can say all it wants! :) It will just have zero authority to mandate
> > anything our membership doesn't endorse by vote!
> >
> > >And if it refuese to accept the AT Large Membership I suggest that suing
> > ICANN is the smartest thing we can do then.
> >
> > Hmmm. I'm not a lawyer, but we have members that are. Any of you out
> there
> > want to comment on our chances under California corporate law to force the
> > ICANN board to comply with their original mandate to provide for
> elections?
> >
> > Bruce Young
> > Portland, Oregon
> > Bruce@barelyadequate.info
> > http://www.barelyadequate.info
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Support democratic control of the Internet!
> > Go to http://www.icannatlarge.com and Join ICANN At Large!
> >
> >
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