Re: [atlarge-discuss] Question 2 for Jamie

["James Love" <james.love@cptech.org>]

Joop, IMO, the panel is in agreement that you should turn over the
passwords to whomever the elected panel designates, and that you should
not run the icannatlarge.com web site like it is your personal web site. 
This was discussed on the panel list.  I really don't know where you are
going with this.   The panel will soon be replaced, and the new panel can
figure out how to get control of the icannatlarge.com web page, if you
insist on maintaining your present position on this, it will be dealt with
later, by the new panel.
There is no hidden agenda on the web page, other than the appropriatness
of having  the panel have some control over the web site.  There are big
differences of opinion among the panel members over lots of substantive
issues, but I sense none over this issue.
I have tried on several occassions to get you to make the archives of the
discuss and panel lists more easily accessiable from the web site, and
cannot understand why you have resisted.  There is almost a random or
personal set of quotes, pictures and issues presented on the web, which
seem to be whatever you seem to think is interesting at the moment.  This
may or may not be the best way to manage an organization site.   IMO, it
is not.   It would be better if the web master actually saw their
responsibility as carrying out the wishes of the elected panel, and not
making personal statements on issues, IMO.  First on my list would be
better access to basic information about the group, including for example,
archives of the email lists, where debate takes place, and decisions are
made.
   Jamie

> At 11:36 a.m. 26/07/2002 -0400, James Love wrote:
>>and I have not followed this closely,
>
>
> Jamie, I am sorry but is that the answer to my specific question?
> If you had not followed it closely, then why did you make such an
> explicit  statement?
>
>  the text of your posting :
>
> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:55:43 -0400
> From: James Love <james.love@cptech.org>
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> Gecko/20020530
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> To: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> CC: Vittorio Bertola <vb@vitaminic.net>, atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20020716113754.02d251a8@pop.paradise.net.nz>
> <ovp5ju46t4j10bh303ljfpfevu94j99mf8@4ax.com>
> <5.0.2.1.2.20020716113754.02d251a8@pop.paradise.net.nz>
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> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] call for a webmaster
>
> Joop, Vittorio has the full support of the panel  on this.  Please
> provide  the passwords to him.
>
> Jamie
>
>
>
> Joop Teernstra wrote:
>>At 11:33 a.m. 16/07/2002 +0200, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>>
>>>Thus I would only like to get a clear and final word from you: will
>>>you provide passwords for full access to the current website? (to me,
>>>or, if you don't trust me, to the next Chairman.)
>>
>>Of course. All it needs is a legitimate vote by a quorum of the panel
>>members and the names of the panel members who are to be entrusted with
>> the FTP keys.
>>That's all.
>>
>>>  The panel voted three months ago that a list of persons
>>>should have full access to the website - and we didn't succeed in
>>>getting it from you since then.
>>
>>Please supply the URL of that vote from the archive. I am not aware
>>that  there was  a legitimate decision.
>>It would have helped communication if you had chosen to include the
>>webmaster in the archived  panel discuss list.
>>It is not too late for that yet.
>>--Joop
>
>
> I will ask the question again and I hope you understand that it is not
> about the website, the webmaster or democratic Panel control over the
> website, which I  fully support and am willing to fight for. It is
> about  you and the Panel members who stand for re-election.
>
> You said something on this list that I believe to be unsubstantiated
> (that  Vittorio had "full support") and I ask you to substantiate it
> with an  archive URL.
> If the other panel members indeed expressed such support, then it is
> only  fair the voters know about each one's position.
>
>
> --Joop


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James Love
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