Re: [atlarge-discuss] tone of debate...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

  Well put here.  Vulgarity and abusiveness are many times in the eyes
or minds of the reader/listener.  Vulgarity and abusiveness also differ
greatly from culture to culture.  Not all members are very familiar
with other members particular cultural differences.  Hence as
Eric says here below TOLERANCE must take precedence.

eric@hi-tek.com wrote:

> The use of certain language, the color of one's skin, someone's sex,
> someone's sexual preference, someone's age, one's geographic location, one's
> education and/or vocation would be nice things to ignore.  But in fact we
> notice them.
> If i did not listen to people because of what is vulgar to me, I would miss
> out on truly magnificent things.
> Because someone is not tolerant is no excuse for us not to be tolerant.
>
> Eric
>
> Jkhan wrote:
>
> > I concur, the value and practice of "Passive Virtues" by some, would
> > certainly benefit the whole, as we press onward through the fog.
> >
> > James Khan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ron Sherwood [mailto:sherwood@islands.vi]
> > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:04 PM
> > To: atlarge discuss list
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] tone of debate...
> >
> > Paul wrote:
> >
> > > I accept that I have not conducted a scientific study,
> > > and the garbage I've seen may not be representative of
> > > the list as a whole.  But I suspect that many would-be
> > > members and supporters will be put off by this sort
> > > of abusive carry on.
> >
> >     How right you are, Paul.
> >
> >     It is sad that such an important (may I say, imperative) need to
> > bring
> > together a representative leadership for netizens at-large, must suffer
> > the
> > noise and bad graces of those incapable of civilized discourse.
> >
> >     Unfortunately, democracy, in it's truest form, is subject to the
> > noise
> > generated by the lowest common denominator.  The fact that much good
> > talent
> > is lost to the worlds political democracies for lack of a thick skin is
> > simply that, a fact.  Complaining about the phenomenon, unfortunately,
> > does
> > not change the situation and we are left to choose among only those who
> > are
> > sufficiently dedicated, or insensitive enough, to be able to swim in the
> > filth.  I, for one, wish it were different...  but am resigned to the
> > fact
> > that it is not.
> >
> >     If you, and I, were prepared to delete all postings from those whose
> > social disposition requires that they use gutter language, misogyny and
> > bully tactics to make a point, we would likely find more time and a
> > greater
> > inclination to read the thoughts of others.  Unfortunately, we would
> > also
> > miss out on a set of voices that are as much a part of the netcitizenry
> > as
> > are we.  That, sir, is the price of democracy.
> >
> > Ron Sherwood
> >
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