Re: [atlarge-discuss] ALAC Conference call (continued)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Sotiris and all stakeholders of other interested parties,

  Thank you Sotiris for this update.

  One thing from you notes that Esther got right is that the ALAC should
appraise DOC on it's organizations orgs progress of actual work.  This
would be a very good idea for ICANNATLARGE.COM should do
itself and not allow Esther to necessarily represent work being done
amongst ICANNATLARGE.COM members or otherwise...

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:

> All,
>
> Sorry for breaking off in midstride like that.  Let's see, I left off at
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> <snip>
>
> > Denise Michel was skeptical about providing the
> > details of how elections and direct representation can be
> > ironed out in two weeks [i.e. prior to the August 16
> > deadline for this draft for the ERC].  Peter Shane
> > (InSITeS - Institute for the Study of Information
> > Technology and Society, www.cmu.edu/insites) stated that
> > Esther's amendments to the proposal do have merit, but he
> > added that his group is not an advocacy group, and he was
> > concerned about representations regarding his
> > association's official position as per its membership's
> > collective views on the issues.  He was specifically
> > concerned by the idea of deferment of elections and he
> > stressed the fact that he lacked any mandate from his
> > organization to take a position on the delay or deferment
> > of elections.
>
> ...CONTINUED:
>
> I expressed my satisfaction and agreement with Peter's Shane's
> reservations and concern(s).  Gabriel Piñeiro, (LatinoamerICANN,
> www.latinoamericann.derecho.org.ar) stated that elections are appropriate
> _after_  structure is determined.  Peter Shane thought the ALAC
> composition needs to be addressed and that the substance of Vittorio's
> plan may be too complex for average Users and the general public to
> understand, let alone participate in.  [the notes are rather haphazard
> from this point forward as the conference was somewhat disjointed and I
> am not a professional scribe]  At some point, Esther expressed a concern
> over getting people to do work, and floated the idea of an ALAC Executive
> body which actually does the work (or at least those who do the work
> among them will eventually become apparent, as well as those who don't)
> and that this might actually spur people to be more productive as opposed
> to self-defeating..  Esther Dyson thought it would be prudent to apprise
> the DOC and other public bodies of ALAC efforts and progress.  Izumi Aizu
> expressed concern over disenfranchising some countries an wished for the
> ALAC to articulate the notion that when and if a developing countries
> at-large structure(s) wish to take part in ALAC efforts, they would be
> treated in an equitable/fair manner.  I mentioned Jefsy Morfin and his
> france@large and asked whether Denise was in communication with Jefsey
> over the inclusion of his france@large, Denise Michel responded that she
> had been in contact with Jefsey and that she had simply fallen behind in
> her update duties as webmaster for at-large.org. Edmundo Valenti,
> (Internet Society Argentina Chapter, www.isoc.org.ar) thought it was
> important to work within ICANN to bring abot any changes, he expressed
> support for an At-Large presence on the Nominating Comittee, and he was
> particularly concerned with effecting a regional approach to the At-Large
> and any elections that may or may not happen at some point in the
> future.  I stated that it was important to clarify ALAC membership
> criteria and how/by whom criteria will be applied; also that it would
> probably be a good idea to clarify that should the ALAC proceed that it
> should be viewed as open-ended and evolving (i.e. that it might have room
> to expand its role if necessary at a later time and not be pigeon-holed
> from the get-go).  Núria de la Fuente Teixidó, (STEC - Sistemas Técnicos
> de Enseñanza Consultores, www.stec.info) thought it important to take the
> necessary steps -- i.e. to identify main actors and build communities;
> it's hard to talk about an election without a structure; ALAC ought to
> try to put At-Large inside ICANN but to emphasize education, outreach,
> and a bottom-up approach to the ALAC so it listens to people.  I
> suggested a web form which would forward directly to all members of the
> ALAC or some such direct input vehicle.  I also asked about whether ALAC
> discussions, drafts and topics could be shared with ICANNAtLarge.com
> members to which the reply was affirmative.  Denise asked that the
> discussion continue and focus on *details* of how an ALAC might be
> structured and function.
>
> That's where the teleconference ended.  If I missed or misrepresented
> anything, Denise, Izmi, and Esther are all on this list and they can
> point it out.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>         ICANNAtLarge.com ALOC Representative
>
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