Re: [atlarge-discuss] Supporting Organization

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Danny and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  I have to admit that in part Danny makes a very good overall point
here that we all should think about.

  My only concern is that what Danny "Seems" to be proposing is
akin to the ALOC/ALAC shindig that would be a non-profit
confederation of sorts or another "Trade Association"?

  But on the positive side in Dannys seemingly partial or suggestive
proposal below is that we could have both types of members
as part of ICANNATLARGE.COM, much like the ISOC
once had.

  The other problem I see with Dannys last suggestion of having
a face to face meeting in the UK or wherever, is that to organize
such a meeting would be beyond the means of ICANNATLARGE.COM
at this time from  a financial standpoint alone, not to mention a
ability standpoint organizationally.

  Therefore in order to reach even the option that Danny is suggesting
and what we are striving for now would be to concentrate on the
fundamental needs we currently have:

1.) Funding and a funding model <----  This is job one!

2.) Getting the type of organization as far as legal status

3.) Deciding on what our new name is going to be


DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:

> Richard,
>
> Let's talk about where we're going with this At-large effort...
>
> If there weren't any other user groups out there, then I would surely find
> validity in establishing one... but the truth of the matter is that there are
> hundreds if not thousands of user groups already out there worldwide.  There
> is truly no pressing need for yet another user group.  There is, however, a
> need for a Supporting Organization that can serve as an umbrella group for
> *all* other user groups within ICANN -- an all-encompassing entity that
> allows all individuals and all organizations of individual users to be
> represented on the ICANN Board, an organization that would allow all to
> participate in all the subordinate entities that are charged with developing
> policy recommendations.
>
> My hope was that this collectivity of a thousand individuals would organize a
> plan to function as that umbrella group, and would petition the ICANN Board
> to establish such a Supporting Organization.  Instead, they have chosen to go
> their merry way as just another one of many user groups that can readily be
> ignored by the Board.  They are busy planning their own structure and bylaws,
> and are not planning any structure that will necessarily serve the broader
> At-Large.  I don't see any plans to include ACM, CECUA, ISOC, PFIR, CPSR and
> others into a single representative structure.  Icannatlarge.com is simply
> thinking about its own organizational needs rather than the needs of the
> already existing community.... and if this group won't spearhead an effort to
> organize these other distinct groups into a cohesive whole, then who will?
> Sorry, but you don't need the type of outreach that you are planning on a
> grandiose scale, all you need to do is to collaborate with the other
> organizations already out there and collectively come up with a plan that
> suits everyone's needs.
>
> I would propose a roundtable conference to launch a Supporting Organization.
> Invite representatives from every major user group to attend a face-to-face
> session somewhere (the U.K. would be O.K) giving them sufficient notice and
> allowing them to formulate in advance representative models for consideration
> by the entire group.  Have them bring charts, diagrams, whatever it takes,
> but most importantly the authority to negotiate on behalf of their
> organization.  Ultimately these representatives will agree upon a model that
> will be reasonably acceptable to all, and a Supporting Organization will be
> born.
>
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