Re: FW: [atlarge-discuss] Challenge from Ross Rader 1.4

[eric@hi-tek.com]

Wait a second, you need to make sure that people understand that the law for
the elite was to protect the People from the elite and yes it sucked.. it
was the first law to reign in any elite.
Common law was for non-elite to non elite.
(of course we are talking royal in this case by elite)
These were both the beginning of the finest legal system ever developed.

Actually damned good start.  Will it take us five hundred years?  Shoot I
wanted it done by Halloween.

e

Jkhan wrote:

> The Magna Carta "Law for the Elite" vs. The Common Law "Law for the
> People"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joop Teernstra [mailto:terastra@terabytz.co.nz]
> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 4:39 PM
> To: ross@byte.org; DannyYounger@cs.com
> Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Challenge from Ross Rader 3
>
> At 06:02 p.m. 22/08/2002 -0400, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> > From Ross Rader's byte.org blog:
> >
> >"I asked the question a week ago, but still don't "get" the answers. A
> few
> >people included me in a thread going on over on the at-large discussion
> list
> >regarding what the arguments for and against individual participation
> in
> >ICANN actually are. The answers coming back weren't all that convincing
> - all
> >I managed to take away was that users are entitled to a seat because
> they use
> >the system. Not terribly convincing. Convince me."
>
> Ross,
>
> Imagine for a moment that you are not a registrar, but a registrant.
>
> Then read you own Tucows DN registration contract or the contract of any
>
> other registrar.
> Do you not think you would have written that contract a litte
> differently
> if you were the Representative of the Registrants, authorised to
> negotiate
> such a Registrar contract on behalf of the registrants?
> How about clauses that allow deletions at the registrar's sole
> discretion?
> Liability exclusions for gross neglect?
>
> I may be able to convince you as an Individual, but in this debate you
> are
> a Registrar, the *other* contracting party.
> Of course the Registration industry cannot be "convinced" that
> unilateral
> contracts of adhesion with captive customers are not a great idea.
> I'm afraid more than convincing is needed.
>
> --Joop
>
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