Re: [atlarge-discuss] User activities in other At-Large structures

[DannyYounger@cs.com]

Jeff,

I really get tired of hearing your nonsense.  If people working together at 
the local level, creating after-school programs, generating employment 
opportunities, organizing small business workshops and cooperating with 
government ministers to enhance e-commerce situations in developing countries 
has "little meaning" to you because they aren't "voting", then you are truly 
in need of professional help.  

Exactly what earthshaking "issues" is Jeff Williams voting on?  Choosing a 
new name for this organization?  Big friggin' deal.  I'm not impressed.  

You seem to think that "voting" is the only thing that matters...   I cited 
examples of "productive" user activities.  Yes, these were ISOC activities in 
this example, but numerous other examples abound.  What matters is actually 
"accomplishing" something.

Other groups are actually getting things done that are of value to their 
respective communities.  They self-organize in order to utilize their 
collective skills and talent to benefit others.  They don't seem to need the 
voting rights that you describe to actually get things accomplished -- they 
route around the problem and aggressively work on solutions to the real 
day-to-day user issues.  

Meanwhile, you claim to be the spokesman for a sizable group and yet have 
absolutely nothing to show for your group's efforts.  Frankly, I have never 
heard of your INEGroup ever getting anything done that was of benefit to 
anyone, so don't expect me to tolerate having you disparage the activities of 
others.  

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