RE: [atlarge-discuss] Democratic process (was Re:[atlarge-discuss]encouragement)

[Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>]

Richard,
You are entitled to your opinion, but with the greatest respect, that's all
it is, your opinion. I have already explained that the Watchdogs considered
an ICANN (pre-your time) precedent in making their decision, so this wasn't
an arbitrary solution being suggested, it had a basis, so please tone down
the rhetoric and avoid loaded words like corruption. It's not helpful. What
would have been helpful is if the Panel had actually got together and
answered to the Watchdogs suggestion formally, either by agreeing the
Watchdog decision, or overruling it, giving grounds for reasons. Instead, we
are being subjected to several Oscar winning performances for drama queen of
the year. Not surprisingly, one member said they didn't understand what was
happening and to deny Jamie's statement is to call both of us a liar. I have
many faults, but lying isn't one of them.

Regards,
Joanna


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:37 PM
> To: Joanna Lane; James Love; micheal@beethoven.com
> Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de; espresso@e-scape.net
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Democratic process (was Re:
> [atlarge-discuss]encouragement)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joanna Lane <jo-uk@rcn.com>
>
> > However, in this case, the Panel did not give the Watchdogs any
> > formal response to approve or disapprove their recommended course of
> action,
> > which is why we now have some confusion as to what is happening.
>
> There is NO confusion over what is happening.
>
> The panel has not mandated any change to the timing of anything, and
> therefore the timing remains the same. Any alterations to votes AFTER the
> stipulated deadline are invalid.
>
> There is no confusion over the vote and its democratic outcome,
> because the
> vote has been called and as a democratic organisation we respect
> the result.
>
> I personally hope it is NOT Icannatlarge.org/com because I do not
> want to be
> tainted by the name of a corrupt organisation. Nevertheless, it
> is the will
> of the majority which must and will prevail.
>
> The suggestion of extending the deadline was roundly criticised both by
> members and panelists, and was a non-starter (because you could not get a
> panel majority to agree to the extension). The Watchdogs were not mandated
> or empowered to change the timescale of the election and therefore their
> suggestion was only that - a suggestion. A suggestion which was not
> implemented.
>
> I do not think "we now have some confusion as to what is happening".
>
> Let's be absolutely transparent and clear about this. The ballot
> consists of
> those votes which were correctly submitted within the agreed timeframe.
>
> You couldn't have a situation in Florida where the Presidential
> election was
> extended for a few days to enable people to think again and change their
> minds (in order to manipulate a different outcome). No more can we have a
> ballot and then ask people to think again and change their minds.
>
> Its a preposterous manipulation of a voting procedure. Even raising a new
> agenda (the "we'll be sued" agenda) in the middle of a vote is an
> unwelcome
> interference with the process. So I hope and trust there is no confusion
> whatsoever, and this has all been a storm in a teacup, and that the
> Watchdogs can confirm transparently that the deadline was NOT extended and
> no late votes or alterations were accepted.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Richard Henderson
>
> There is no confusion as to what is happening, unless someone has
> corrupted
> the process.
>
>
>
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