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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] MOTION PROPOSAL: was WG-WEB: responses to Jamie



I second.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
To: "Bruce Young" <bruce@barelyadequate.info>;
<atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>
Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] MOTION PROPOSAL: was
WG-WEB: responses to Jamie


> Well I move that we ask the membership whether they want the word "ICANN"
in
> our name - YES or NO
>
> You can't have a much simpler question than that, and then I'd be happy to
> accept the democratic will more easily. At present I genuinely think there
> is ambiguity as to whether most of our members actually wanted ICANN in
the
> name. I believe a coalition of not-have-Icann-in-the-name voters would
> actually outnumber those who wanted Icannatlarge.org, though of course I
> could be wrong.
>
> A vote will clarify that point. I propose the motion:
>
> Do you want the word "ICANN" in our name - YES or NO or Abstain
>
> Richard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bruce Young <bruce@barelyadequate.info>
> To: <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>
> Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 7:17 AM
> Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] WG-WEB: responses to
> Jamie
>
>
> > I don't disagree with this thinking.  But without a clear mandate from
our
> > members rejecting the vote results, I don't see that we have the freedom
> to
> > reject their will as reflected in the vote.
> >
> > Bruce Young
> > Portland, Oregon USA
> > bruce@barelyadequate.info
> > http://www.barelyadequate.info
> > --------------------------------------------
> > Support democratic control of the Internet!
> > Go to http://www.icannatlarge.com and Join ICANN At Large!
> >
> >
> > |  -----Original Message-----
> > |  From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
> > |  Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 5:19 AM
> > |  To: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de; J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin
> > |  Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > |  Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] WG-WEB: responses to
> > |  Jamie
> > |
> > |
> > |  What I'm trying to say is that in the world of democratic
> > |  politics, a "minority" may get the highest number of votes, but
> > |  the democratic will of the people may be expressed through a
> > |  "coalition" of smaller parties.
> > |
> > |  Eg : Imagine a UK election where
> > |
> > |  Conservatives 40%
> > |  Labour 31%
> > |  LibDem 16%
> > |
> > |  Clearly a coalition *could* be formed to outvote the Conservative
group
> > |
> > |  The same may apply with regard to our name vote (we just don't
> > |  know without a clarifying poll)
> > |
> > |  I believe you'd find a majority coalition in favour of
> > |  jettisoning the "minority" ICANN name
> > |
> > |  I don't actually think icannatlarge.org is REALLY the name most
> > |  of our membership wants.
> > |
> > |  And as the name doesn't even resolve, and as the owner of the
> > |  name would prefer an alternative anyway - why do we stick with
> > |  an (arguably) non-working non-accessible non-popular name?
> > |
> > |  I argue the majority of voters did NOT want the name we've been
> > |  landed with.
> > |
> > |  And then there's the legality issue, which has yet to unfold
> > |
> > |  Richard
> > |
> > |
> >
> >
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