Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [atlarge-panel] MOTION PROPOSAL: was WG-WEB: responses to Jamie

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> At 08:20 05/10/02, NameCritic wrote:
> >Since I seconded on the previous motion I'd like to see someone else second
> >your's Judith so I know this follows the wishes of more than a few. Anyone
> >reading this and not responding to the list or lurking should feel welcome
> >to step forward with their their thoughts as well
>
> I second.
>
> >A democracy may also choose from time to time to reconsider or reverse a
> >previous decision on the basis of new information received too late to be
> >taken into account
>
> The information was not late but disregarded.
> The situation worsed as a result of the vote (the name was put on hold)

  Utter bullshit here Jefsey!  >;)  Nice try though.  You have just told two
different stories on this.  NSLOOKUP did not support this claim either,
nor did whois...  I also seriously doubt that the vote had any effect
what so ever on this situation.  You basically refused to reconfig
you name servers.  The evidence is now a matter of public record
anyway that clearly shows that. I created an audit trail
for NIPC as they requested.  It is also redundant in that
ICANNATLARGE.ORG was transferred, by you I suppose,
or your admin. for the DN ICANNATLARGE.ORG, and therefore
has hence been locked by Marc Schnieders.

>
>
> >at the previous vote. In this case:
> >
> >1 - A legal opinion to the effect that use of "ICANN" in the organization's
> >2 - The resignation of our Chair, Joanna Lane, and also Panel member Judith
> >3 - The impropriety of conducting a public partisan advocacy of one choice
> >4 - Continued disagreement as to whether using "ICANN" in the name is a good
> >5 - The technical limbo into which the chosen name has fallen.
>
> The real issue is that the Membership, the Panel and the concerned xxMasters
> do not give a damn about the name they voted for. There are fully protected DNs
> by that name (icann-at-large and icann-atlarge), paid until 2003 NO ONE cares
> about. Not a single line in tenth of protesting mails about them.
>
> jfc
>
> >Quick and democratic ways out of the mess has been suggested:
> >
> >    a) a motion to give all members a straightforward yes/no vote on
> >       whether to retain the word "ICANN", in which case:
> >       i) if yes, we need to sort out the legal and technical issues;
> >       ii) if no, we move on to other priorities.
> >
> >or
> >    b) a motion to ask the panel to set aside "ICANNatlarge.org" and
> >       go with the second-favourite on the ballot, in which case
> >       i) if yes, we can move on;
> >       ii) if no, then we're back to discussing what we need to do
> >           to resolve the issue.
> >
> >Frankly, I'm rapidly ceasing to care what this group calls itself.
> >
> >We've got a motion on the table, duly proposed by Richard Henderson and
> >seconded by Chris McElroy (aka NameCritic):
> >      MOVED we ask the membership whether they want the word
> >      "ICANN" in our name - YES or NO
> >
> >I move that we put the question to a vote ASAP. Is there a seconder to that?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Judyth Mermelstein
> >
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