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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re:Marc Please respond! to: [atlarge-discuss] Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
I have a reseller account with enom and am very familiar with them. locking
the domain name from being transferred without permission of the owner is a
normal protection and doesn't declare some ulterior motive on the part of
the owner. Just good business sense. Registrars who do not offer this
protection are behind the times and shouldn't be used. Many names have been
hacked and stolen. The lock stops that from occurring.
Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: "atlarge discuss list" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Cc: "marc schneiders" <marc@schneiders.org>; "Marc Schneiders"
<marc@fuchsia.bijt.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 8:27 PM
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Re:Marc Please respond! to: [atlarge-discuss]
Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
> Curtis and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
>
> Not true that ENOM locks all DN's that are registered through them.
> Several of our [INEGroup] members have domains registered by
> ENOM and none of them are locked. As to the intention of Marc,
> I am in no way sure. But locking a non-resolving DN is many times
> a tactic used by DN horders.
>
> Curtis M. Kularski wrote:
>
> > The domain's "locked" status shouldn't be used to judge intentions, as
> > this domain was registered with ENOM, and that is the default for that
> > registrar. At present, all of my domains with ENOM are in locked status
> > to deter domain hijacking. I hope Marc responds soon so we can end this
> > "what if" thread.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:32 AM
> > To: curtis@kularski.net
> > Cc: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
> > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
> >
> > Curtis and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> >
> > If you read my postings in response to Jefsey and Richard you should
> > have noticed that I CC'ed Marc and ask him about the DN
> > ICANNATLARGE.ORG in the posting in response to Richard.
> > See archives for further information... Hence, Yes Marc has been
> > contacted.
> >
> > My guess is that he has not intention of turning over the DN
> > ICANNATLARGE.ORG as he has it locked presently.
> > see swhois.net for ICANNATLARGE.ORG for further details.
> > I also posted those details as well for everyone's edification.
> >
> > Curtis M. Kularski wrote:
> >
> > > Jeff, etc,
> > > I don't know how you all feel about the issue of buying the
> > > domain from Marc, but I would be willing to donate financial resources
> > > to the purchase. However, I feel that IF we get the domain back from
> > > him, then we should make sure there is some type of guardian of the
> > > domain that will ensure that it is renewed when necessary and doesn't
> > > fall our of the organization's control. Has someone made an attempt
> > to
> > > contact Marc yet?
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Curtis M. Kularski
> > > Certified Novell Administrator
> > > curtis@kularski.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:19 PM
> > > To: Richard Henderson
> > > Cc: Walter Schmidt; Atlarge Panel List; Atlarge Discuss List
> > > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
> > >
> > > Richard and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,
> > >
> > > I would gander a guess that Marc would want some $$ consideration
> > > for either of these Domain names. Perhaps he would donate them for
> > > other special considerations with our yet to be legally formed
> > > organization,
> > > like perhaps CEO for life, or something like that... In any event, as
> > > we
> > > do not have any $$ yet, the buying of these DN's is not an option.
> > >
> > > However I have a DN for this group that I registered some time ago
> > > that I will donate for not consideration.
> > http://icann-int-atlarge.org/
> > > It is currently "Under construction" unofficially, and just waiting
> > > for someone to need it, officially...
> > >
> > > Richard Henderson wrote:
> > >
> > > > I guess it depends which name (if any) Marc Schneiders is prepared
> > to
> > > offer
> > > > us, as he is now registrant for both www.icannatlarge.org and
> > > > www.atlarge.org
> > > >
> > > > This is not meant to pre-suppose that he will offer either, as that
> > is
> > > > entirely up to him
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Walter Schmidt <walts@dorsai.org>
> > > > To: Atlarge Panel List <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>; Atlarge
> > Discuss
> > > List
> > > > <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> > > > Cc: Walter Schmidt <walts@dorsai.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:46 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Domain Name: icannatlarge.org
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, DPF wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Preferential ballots are ideal for coping with an option that is
> > > no
> > > > > > longer valid. You merely get the vote counters to recount the
> > > results
> > > > > > excluding the option which has been struck out.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doing so results in ATLARGE.ORG being our new name (also coming in
> > > second
> > > > > on the initial accounting).
> > > > >
> > > > > www.atlarge.org resolves to:
> > > > >
> > > > > Name: pan.bijt.net
> > > > > IP Address: 213.196.2.97
> > > > > Location: AMSTERDAM (52.370N, 4.900E)
> > > > > Network: NL-CYBERCOMM-COLO-1
> > > > >
> > > > > Domain Name: BIJT.NET
> > > > > Registrar: TUCOWS, INC.
> > > > > Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
> > > > > Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org
> > > > > Name Server: MEJAC.PALO-ALTO.CA.US
> > > > > Name Server: NS2.GLOBALXS.NL
> > > > > Name Server: PAN.BIJT.NET
> > > > > Name Server: NS2.SECONDARY.NL
> > > > > Name Server: FUCHSIA.BIJT.NET
> > > > > Name Server: NS1.SECONDARY.NL
> > > > > Name Server: VOO.DOO.NET
> > > > > Name Server: BA.UHA.US
> > > > > Updated Date: 04-sep-2002
> > > > >
> > > > > The vote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ATLARGE.ORG = Column 1
> > > > > = Column 2
> > > > > INTERNETATLARGE.ORG = Column 3
> > > > > WORLDATLARGE.ORG = Column 4
> > > > > NETATLARGE.ORG = Column 5
> > > > >
> > > > > >50% = number greater than 50% remaining votes
> > > > > Total = total remaining for round
> > > > > 90 = total valid votes
> > > > >
> > > > > FIRST ROUND:
> > > > > >50% Total One Two Three Four Five
> > > > > 46 90 39 33 12 6
> > > > > 100% 43% 37% 13% 7%
> > > > > After 1st round, no clear winner
> > > > >
> > > > > SECOND ROUND:
> > > > > 1 2 0
> > > > > 44 90 87 40 35 12
> > > > > 100% 46% 40% 14%
> > > > > 100% 97% 44% 39% 13%
> > > > > 6 NETATLARGE.ORG votes result in 3 votes to allocate, still no
> > > clear
> > > > > winner
> > > > >
> > > > > THIRD ROUND:
> > > > > 5 1
> > > > > 41 90 81 45 36
> > > > > 100% 56% 44%
> > > > > 100% 90% 50% 40%
> > > > > 12 WORLDATLARGE.ORG votes result in 6 votes to allocate, with
> > > ATLARGE.ORG
> > > > > receiving 56% of remaining votes and 50% of valid votes.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- REgards, walts@dorsai.org Walter C. Schmidt, IT CPA Blue(.)
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> > > > >
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> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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