Re: [atlarge-discuss] List/website/connectivity

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Bruce and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

Bruce Young wrote:

> This wasn't a recommendation for action, just an observation.  This
> organization will probably *never* be in the position to fund such a
> project, but we can certainly discuss such issues, as Eric and I have been
> doing.

  Never say never.  Absolutes are only limitations of you own mind.
Please don't heap such limitations on the members or this organization
or in doing so you shall continue to limit it's horizons.  Now, if that
is what you want to do, than just say so...

>  It may not be topical to our current organizing efforts, but it is
> one of the many issues we should be advocating for!

  Your right that this is not topical to current organizational efforts.
And it should not be.  But we should be able to aid in these sorts of
efforts.  INEGRoup does, and will continue to do so...

>
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon USA
> byoung651@attbi.com
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> |  -----Original Message-----
> |  From: espresso@e-scape.net [mailto:espresso@e-scape.net]
> |  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:14 AM
> |  To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> |  Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] List/website/connectivity
> |
> |
> |  At 18:30 -0700 2002/10/07, Bruce Young wrote:
> |  >I think what we need in areas that are underdeveloped
> |  communications-wise >is
> |  >to look at bypassing older technologies that are pervasive in the US and
> |  >elsewhere, and deploy portable wireless devices.  802.11b
> |  chipset prices are
> |  >falling rapidly, and we can expect to see them as standard equipment in
> |  >almost every digital device.  I see something similar to
> |  Microsoft's Tablet
> |  >PC (without their price!), maybe running all open-source software, with
> |  >built-in Wi-Fi, and using one of several new organic displays
> |  that will be
> |  >very cheap to manufactur in quantity.  This would be less expensive to
> |  >deploy than traditional desktop PCs, would be easier to modify
> |  for non-roman
> |  >character sets, and would be more useful being a portable device.
> |
> |  That's all very well, Bruce, but we are in no position to supply
> |  the developing countries, or even the poor in our own, with that
> |  technology. Not even the UN or the World Bank has come anywhere
> |  near a viable plan to deploy the ICTs by 2010, let alone immediately.
> |
> |  Meanwhile, even if everyone had a Wi-Fi-capable handheld, one
> |  would have to take into account the facts that these devices
> |  have much smaller displays than current desktop systems and that
> |  not everyone has 20/20 vision.
> |
> |  I'm not knocking your suggestion that everyone on the planet
> |  *should* have these devices. But I do have to say, as Eric did,
> |  that we should be taking present realities into account in our
> |  Web site design. What sort of voice can this organization be for
> |  all Internet users if we make it impossible for  the
> |  less-affluent, the handicapped, and those for whom Internet
> |  connections are difficult and expensive to use our own Web site?
> |
> |  It seems to me that the last thing the planet needs is yet
> |  another organization to represent the interests of the
> |  technically-inclined and the affluent, which simply dismisses
> |  the needs of the rest on the grounds that some day some of them
> |  may have what we have now. Isn't that part of what we object to
> |  in ICANN's behaviour?
> |
> |  Regards,
> |
> |  Judyth
> |  (looking forward to various efforts to represent the needs
> |  of all to the 2003 World Summit on the Information Society,
> |  and rather surprised that this group doesn't seem to care)
> |
> |
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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