[atlarge-discuss] Re: What happened to the $25,000,000? (was re: Shanghai)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Danny and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  Sorry to disappoint you Danny, but not tall tales just facts from
INEGroup...

DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> You complain about the lack of funding for this group, yet you also wrote:
>
> "And our proposal (INEG. INC.) that we submitted to the NTIA and this list,
> provides for this.  We have also set up a self perpetuating blind
> non-revocable Trust initially funded with some $25m for this purpose."
> http://www.iana.org/comments/03oct1998-10jan2000/msg00027.html

  Indeed we did.  And I never heard back from Tamar on the
offer of assistance in this E-mail.  I nor any of our directors,
which two contacted Tamar on two separate occasions ever heard
back either...  So we just moved forward and I made the arrangements
to set up this trust ourselves.

>
>
> "an Self-perpetuating non-revocable blind trust that is currently funded with
> some $25m presently."
> http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/proposals/comments/10-11-98.htm

  I am a bit unclear as to you pointing to this particular URL as it has no
relevance that I can assertion.

>
>
> "In our proposal to the NTIA we proposed a Trust fund, along the lines of
> something that Karl A. once suggested. We now have that Trust built and
> funded."
> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/cambridge-1198/other_lodgings.html

  Actually Karls comments are no referenced at the URL you provided,
but are linked FROM this URL at:
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/cambridge-1198/comments.html
To wit from Karl:

"Karl Auerbach

 Accountability and Representation: 1. Assuming SO's retain their ability to
appoint directors --
 then how do we prevent those who obtain their voice on the board via an SO not
obtain additional voice through membership on other
 SO's or in the membership at large?

 2. How do we provide for 'meaningful' participation by individuals in the
membership structure? By 'meaningful' I mean that outcomes
 are not preordained to a particular outcome by any institutional membership that
might exist.

 Technical Advice and Unbiased Expertise: 1. Why should the board, when
considering SO proposals, rely on the advice of the SO
 that is making the proposal, and hence has an advocate's role and is presumably
less than unbiased?

 2. Why should SO's have any membership on the board whatsoever? What is gained
by this?

 3. How does the board initiate policy should an SO not be willing to do so?

 4. How do we prevent SO's from becoming nothing more than entrenched special
interests? How do we allow their membership to
 permit 'meaningful' participation by interests other than those who are the
initial 'core' members of an SO?

 5. Can the board coerce an SO to revise it's membership rules?

 Conflicts of Interest and How to Avoid Them: 1. Why should not votes of the
board be 'on-the-public-record' for matters of
 significance?

 Other: 1. Can 'the membership' amend the articles or by-laws?

 2. What portions of the organic documents should be placed out of reach of the
board (and hence be changeable only by the
 membership or by the board with some sort of external approval [perhaps
judicial])?"

==============

  And again in this link even I fail to see that relevance as to funding
to which you refer, Danny.  Perhaps you could point that relevance
out for everyone or clarify in your own words (Knowing full well
that your propensity for mischaracterization is likely ).

>
>
> So, perhaps we can now brace ourselves for another tall tale from Texas...

  We await your clarification, explanation and characterizations
in your next tale...  >;)

Have a great evening Danny,
Kindest regards,


--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
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