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Danny et al. Icannatlarge isn't recognized as a constituency by ICANN, and it can have whatever membership rules it wants. I personally favor any real unique person. If and when ICANN or anyone else decides to give icannatlarge any formal power in anything, there will be opportunities to negotiate how that would be done. In the early White Paper design, the public was supposed to be able to directly elect 9 members of the ICANN board. Since that has gone to zero, it isn't obvious what is possible. In my own view, if by some miracle icannatlarge actually survives, incorporates, adopts good proceedures, figures out how to verifiy its membership, and hold reliable elections, it has an opportunity to petition various power players as insist on representation.

I don't see much point in alarming people about issues in the ICANN bylaws that are irrelevant for this group. Plus, ICANN amends its bylaws very frequently, as we all know, so what difference do they really make, at any given point of time?

Jamie

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
Why not to keep the things *simple*?
Are @large those who bother to be and survive this list.
jfc

At 09:08 19/10/02, DPF wrote:

On Sat, 19 Oct 2002 02:33:21 EDT, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:

>As we look forward toward the prospect of bylaws and a Charter, I think its
>time that we had a real discussion on who is and who is not an At-Large
>member. We are generally agreed that membership in the At-Large is open to
>both organizations and individuals...

I would think it is open to individual or natural persons only.
Organisations and Corporates have other avenues of representation
while individuals do not unless they happen to be IP lawyers.

>but does that mean, for example, that
>Tucows or NeuStar are entitled to be an At-Large member? How about Roger
>Cochetti, the policy advisor for VeriSign... is he entitled to be an At-Large
>member? What about the Business Constituency? Is it entitled to call itself
>a member of the At-Large? What about individual active BC members... can
>they simultaneously be considered to be At-Large members?

I would keep it simple and say only individuals can join. That
includes Roger Cochetti but naturally people with links to other
stakeholders should declare them as appropriate.

>Even ICANN recognizes the fact that if you are a member of one constituency,
>you shouldn't simultaneously be a member of another consituency... this was
>made crystal clear in the proposed bylaws: "No person or entity that is an
>active member of any one Constituency shall be a member of any other
>Constituency".
>
>Perhaps one of the reasons that we don't yet have bylaws for this group is
>that many in the current leadership know that by any sensible definition they
>would be excluded from membership in the very organization they now lead.

I think it would be counter productive to say that if you are involved
in ICANN in any other capacity you can not be involved in the at
large.

DPF
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