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[atlarge-discuss] RE: [atlarge-panel] Re: [atlarge-discuss] WG-OUTREACH 004 - E-mail group and administrivia *with PROPOSAL



I second this!  We need to get cranking on outreach.

Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon USA
byoung651@attbi.com
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|  -----Original Message-----
|  From: Richard Henderson [mailto:richardhenderson@ntlworld.com]
|  Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:19 PM
|  To: espresso@e-scape.net; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
|  Cc: atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de
|  Subject: [atlarge-panel] Re: [atlarge-discuss] WG-OUTREACH 004 - E-mail
|  group and administrivia *with PROPOSAL
|
|
|  To get some clarity in order to press on, I'd like to ask a "stupid"
|  question to the panel and everyone else.
|
|  I think there is a view that the WG-OUTREACH would do well to
|  transfer its
|  correspondence 'off' our overcrowded discuss and panel lists, to address
|  some of the outreach-specific issues and tasks, while obviously
|  wanting to
|  archive any correspondence on any alternative list for the purposes of
|  transparency, and while also retaining a responsibility to report back
|  clearly and regularly to the panel and membership as a whole.
|
|  This might just be a simple do-today matter of subscribing to a list.
|
|  My "stupid" question is this : Have we, as participants, got the
|  right and
|  sanction of the whole organisation to just go ahead and start a list for
|  outreach (in the absence of anyone producing anything else) or
|  do we have to
|  wait for a general policy decision to be taken on what lists and
|  where, for
|  ALL the working groups?
|
|  OK - that's my question.
|
|  Could anyone who thinks we should not/ must not go ahead and just start a
|  list, please express your views (which are, of course, welcome).
|
|  Otherwise, I guess the answer to my "stupid" question is: people
|  are happy
|  for us as a WG-OUTREACH to just get on and mobilise and get on
|  with things
|  on a list (albeit we are mostly agreed that we should act
|  intelligently and
|  cautiously until we have a more clearly-defined product to
|  'sell'). There is
|  so much we *could* be getting on and doing in preparation that I think it
|  would be a pity if we drifted on for another 2 months and *then* had to
|  start from scratch.
|
|  Can we / should we set up an Outreach list now? And if we should have the
|  Panel's sanction first:
|
|  "I PROPOSE the motion that the Outreach WG can proceed to set up
|  a list to
|  better carry out its duties."
|
|  Maybe this Motion isn't even necessary. Tell me what you think.
|
|  Richard
|
|  ----- Original Message -----
|  From: <espresso@e-scape.net>
|  To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
|  Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 7:12 PM
|  Subject: [atlarge-discuss] WG-OUTREACH 004 - E-mail group and
|  administrivia
|
|
|  At 08:22 -0400 2002/10/21, Ron Sherwood wrote:
|  >Since some movers and shakers seem to have migrated to
|  WG-OUTREACH, it does
|  >not seem unreasonable to send the work to where it will receive some
|  >attention.
|  >
|  >What a good idea, Judyth.
|
|  Thanks, Ron! I thought perhaps we could get list-traffic down to bearable
|  while ensuring that the right ideas were sent to the right groups.
|
|  Here (thanks to Richard who came through with Gabriel's address) is the
|  official WG-OUTREACH membership list, in alphabetical order by surname.
|
|  Joey Borda <starwalker@gay.com>,
|  Satyajit Gupta <icheckemail@indiatimes.com>,
|  Richard Henderson [Chair] <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>,
|  Erick Iriarte Ahon <faia@amauta.rcp.net.pe>,
|  Judyth Mermelstein <espresso@e-scape.net>
|  Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@mail.club-internet.fr>,
|  YJ Park <yjpark@myepark.com>,
|  Gabriel Pineiro <gpineiro@derecho.org.ar>,
|  Roberto Roggiero <roberto@roggiero.net>,
|  Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>,
|  Ron Sherwood <sherwood@islands.vi>,
|  Jeff Williams  <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>,
|  Bruce Young <bruce@barelyadequate.info>
|
|  In the absence of any other offers, I volunteer my services as "recording
|  secretary" so as to make sure this list is updated when necessary and
|  there's some admonistrative backup to the discussions.
|
|  However, my equipment setup is not lavish so I cannot promise to
|  archive the
|  WG-O's discussions indefinitely on it. Perhaps somebody with
|  more hard disk
|  space could take that on, or perhaps the Webmaster and WG-WEB
|  could arrange
|  to have to messages archived on the existing site if we send them along?
|  Just another little idea...
|
|  Regards,
|
|  Judyth
|
|
|
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|  Judyth Mermelstein     "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
|  Montreal, QC           <espresso@e-scape.net>
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