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Re: [atlarge-discuss] ERC vs At-Large Representation



Hans,
You are out of turn here.
Users everywhere?
I think not!
You have not been crowned yet so I suggest a modicum of decorum.
e

Hans Klein wrote:

> YJ,
>
> Thanks for these excellent comments!  I am very happy that you were in
> Shanghai to speak on behalf of users everywhere.
>
> Hans
>
> At 05:32 PM 10/30/2002 +0900, YJ Park wrote:
> >Dear members,
> >
> >This comment was directed to ERC during the public forum of ICANN.
> >
> >Regards,
> >YJ
> >-----------------------------------------------------
> >YJ Park, Elected panel member of ICANNatlarge.org
> >
> >I appreciate the Board for incorporating At-Large Advisory Committee after
> >Bucharest. On the other hand, I also want to ask the Board to remember the
> >initial promise made by DoC and white paper, 9 Board of directors from
> >at-large constituency.
> >
> >Alejandro Pixanty, Chairman of ERC during his presentation placed high
> >emphasis on the criticality on building "TRUST" with ICANN. However, until
> >individual users can get more specific answers from the Board to the
> >At-Large representation, individual users shall have difficulties with
> >cementing "TRUST" with ICANN and DoC.
> >
> >After four years' challenge of developing a mechanism to reflect Individual
> >users' voices into ICANN's decision-making process since ICANN was created
> >in 1998 in following manner.
> >
> >Membership Advisory Committee in 1999,
> >At-Large Study Committee, NAIS, Interim Cordnating Committee in 2000, 2001,
> >ICANNatlarge.com, At-Large Organizing Committee in 2002,
> >and recently At-Large Advisory Committee Assistance Group with proposed
> >At-Large Advisory Committee.
> >
> >We reached a conclusion that no At-Large Board of Director. Therefore, ICANN
> >is becoming business association rather than consensus-building coordination
> >body
> >
> >In the name of Internet community, ICANN has been trying to include and
> >listen to ccTLD managers, business groups, Intellectual property groups,
> >RIRs, even the governments, but Individual users were sidelined without
> >appropriate representation guarantee. As of 1998, 9 board seats were
> >guaranteed for Individual users. Now, as of 2002, what individual users are
> >offered is 5 At-Large representatives on the Nominating Committee together
> >with other 13 constituencies. no single board seat is not guaranteed for the
> >individual users.
> >
> >If I may, on behalf of those who have worked hard on at-large representation
> >since its beginning, I think we have to admit that such enormous efforts and
> >energies put forth by many people ended up with failure in the ICANN
> >process.
> >
> >However, there are still ongoing efforts such as ICANNatlarge.org to build
> >At-Large constituency. With limited resources, election of the
> >representatives of ICANNatlarge.org was conducted in August with hope we can
> >be heard in ICANN's decision-making process.
> >
> >Here I would like to propose to the Board first the Board make substantial
> >efforts continuously to strengthen users voices in the representation and
> >make sure the At-Large Advisory Committee should establish a bottom-up
> >decision-making process as it is expected to in consultation with the
> >existing group.
> >
> >second, the Board considers forming a committee to  reintroduce 9 board
> >members from at-large constituency in the near future.
> >
> >Thank you for your attentions and consideration to the proposals.
> >
> >Please, refer to the web site for further specific comments.
> >
> >Follow-up question by Karl Auerbach, Lypman Chapman
> >
> >Comment by Hans, Alejandro
> >
> >Hans told that there was no commitment about 9 Board of Directors
> >in the white paper.
> >
> >Karl clarified the white paper ensured public representation promised
> >in the Congress by Esther.
> >
> >Alejandro expressed that the Board doesn't want to revisit 9 Board
> >of Directors.
> >
> >
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