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[atlarge-discuss] Re: 3:127 EU



Looks like another lonely night in the Jeff Williams basement apartment.  See header below:


 4:55 am on a Saturday, nothing better to do than send an email insulting Judith and then back to playing video games and surfing the net for porn. Don't worry Jeff, I'm sure you'll meet a girl one day.

To: <espresso@e-scape.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:55 AM
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Re: 3:127 EU




> Judyth, Jim and all,
> 
> espresso@e-scape.net wrote:
> 
> > At 12:38 -0600 2002/11/08, Jim Fleming wrote:
> > >http://europa.eu.int/comm/dg10/publications/brochures/docu/10lecons/txt_en.html
> > >"Until it crystallised into a political concept and became the long-term goal of the Memberof the European Community, the European
> > >ideal was unknown to all but philosophers and visionaries. The notion of a United States of Europe was part of a humanist-pacifist
> > >dream which was shattered by the conflicts which brought so much destruction to the European continent in the first half of this
> > >century."
> > >
> > >...others may prefer .EU...
> >
> > Sometimes I share Danny's frustration, Jim. It's taking far too much of my time to try to read between the lines and figure out what you're really trying to tell us.
> 
>   Keep trying and you'll get it.  It is clear as a high quality crystal to me.
> I agree that Jims propensity for speaking in metaphors is difficult for some,
> and perhaps a more direct style would be more appropriate.  None
> the less if he used such a style someone would also complain about
> that as well....
> 
> >
> >
> > This thread has been a little easier than usual so I'll give you some quick reactions.
> >
> > 1. Yes, that "humanist-pacifist dream" is dear to many people. We like to think it just possible that the world may choose to move towards more civilization rather than less, and find better ways to settle its disputes than by bombing others "back to the Stone Age".
> 
>   A little over simplistic here Judyth.  None the less your point is still well taken.
> However realism is the norm, and has been for centuries, as Jim rightly
> indicated.  Therefore never give up your dreams, but be settled in
> the reality of the world and deal with that reality on it's own terms.
> 
> >
> >
> > 2. No, the present EU is not quite that ambitious: all it seeks to do is level the economic playing-field and enhance co-operation amongst as many European countries as demonstrate a willingness to participate. Ideally, though it won't prevent disputes between countries, it will provide some better means for settling them.
> 
>   It MAY provide better means of settling some disputes.  However given
> Europe history to date, that is unlikely in many respects.  However leveling
> the playing field is paramount, on this we agree.  The world is too small a place
> for just a US non-profit corp. to be regulating a global resource unilaterally.
> 
> >
> >
> > 3. No, it shouldn't be necessary for everyone who owns a European domain name to re-register. Surely that change could be done by the registrars on a given date with a little advance planning.
> 
>   I could be done with a little planning to be sure.  There real questions are
> whom does this planing and what is the criterion by which that planning
> can be imparted.  ICANN clearly does not have or has not shown
> to have the answer.
> 
> >
> >
> > 4. No, most people wouldn't care if their domains went from XYZ.fr to XYZ.fr.eu or XYZ.fr.int as long as people could still visit the sites without problems.
> 
>   I think this is stretching it a bit.  To do so represents a great inconvenience
> not to mention a host of legal problems for those Domain Name holders.
> Inconvenience has a cost in terms of political capital as well as financial.
> Both will no doubt be high if such occurs as a matter of policy.
> 
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 972-244-3801
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

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