[atlarge-discuss] PANEL CHAIR Post - ELECTION Action

["jkhan" <jkhan@metromgr.com>]

Jeff, I to am feeling the frustration of un-affirmative action of the
panel. My understand of how it is you feel is: Now that the Panel is
complete and chair established is reasonable that in "30 days at most"
the members should expect a reasonable statement/plan/guide to address
the three areas of the Icann structure.

I concur (several of us concur),

Please pardon my Socratic questions, as they are proposed to stimulate
some response from the Panel itself. 

If the Panel would un-veil the mystery, I ask, what are the Issues
within the following three categories:

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DNSO: the Domain Name Supporting Organization
	Issue 1
	Issue 2
	Issue etc...

ASO: the Address Supporting Organization
	Issue 1
	Issue 2
	Issue etc...

PSO: the Protocol Supporting Organization
	Issue 1: The deployment of IPv6
	Issue 2
	Issue etc...

Icann/Iana Relations: the Lines-of-Communication
	Issue 1: Chair relations to ISOC/ICANN/IANA...
	Issue 2
	Issue etc...

Icannatlarge: the Structure of our Org
	Issue 1: Bylaws of IcannatLarge
	Issue 2
	Issue etc...

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Ps: Feel free to add your issue to the list above and re-circulate]
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I have PSO Issues regarding the deployment of IPv6, so there's an issue
topic. 
Eric notes issues with the Bylaws (our Bylaws)
Jeff expresses issues with the Org chair relations to the ISOC/Icann
etc... 

I have only one ambition at this time, and that is to see that this
Panel can correctly listen, identify, and organize the Issues, so that
dedicated members such as: Sotiris, Jan, Eric, Jim, Stephen, Joop,
Judith, Jeff, ... Et.al. the members of Icannatlarge, can see to it that
affirmative arguments regarding the issues are properly addressed to
Icann.

Vittorio, we shall abide with reason for a reasonable amount of time.
Please help make this a workable space, so that we may all get down to
the work at hand.

James Khan



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 11:58 PM
To: jkhan
Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: PANEL CHAIR ELECTION - Free ISOC
Membership - and no voice and vote by individual members..


James and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  First off the Panel is not elected to "make a working Issues
structure", James.  >;)  Second on the odd chance that the members voted
for the Panel to do so, it shouldn't take more than 30 days at most.  I
have participated in several similar efforts of the nature to which you
incorrectly imply, where we had only 15 days to set up a working
structure with fewer members of a "Panel" to do so..

  The Panel needs to complete the mandate to which it was elected to do,
and no more, in no more than 30 days.  It has already had several months
and has yet to complete a single task it was elected to do even though
allot of volunteers, including myself, Eric, and Sotiris have pledged to
do.

Despite that, I personally, and I believe Sotiris also have done what we
pledged to do irrespective of the Panel's many political endeavors into
political intrigue that have little or nothing to do with it's elected
mandate. This is on record.

  Now James, I hope I have answered your very well meaning but misstated
question adequately or fully...  If not, than please feel free to ask
any follow-up questions as to my answer.  >;)

jkhan wrote:

> Sotiris, Eric, Jeff;
>
> I understand and appreciate your opinions, as I too have expressed my
> reservations. Tell me what you feel is a reasonable amount of time for

> this panel to make a working Issues structure??? 2-3-4 months ???
>
> James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:06 PM
> To: Eric Dierker
> Cc: jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com; jkhan@metromgr.com;
> atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: PANEL CHAIR ELECTION - Free ISOC 
> Membership - and no voice and vote by individual members..
>
> Eric Dierker wrote:
>
> > <disclaimer>
> > I am not any classification within ICANN, I am only an individual
> > user. I am only a consultant in the term Chief InterGlobal 
> > Strategist (yes some think that means interplanetary;-) but it means

> > i work with systems, like political, IT, Legal, and financial, and 
> > try to make them work together. Yes I work internationally with my 
> > main office in Vietnam.
> >
> > I just note that our Panel seems to now be controlled by ISOC
> > members.
>
> > There is no right or wrong to this but we must accept it. It has
> > major
>
> > implications. I also believe it is no accident.
>
> It is no accident indeed!
>
> >
> >
> > Too bad that another group is seeking control of the best chance for
> > individuals to be represented.  But what the heck maybe it is a good

> > group!
>
> Yeah right!  A group that runs a registry to represent individuals...
> hmmm.
>
> SS
>
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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