RE: [atlarge-discuss] polling closed. results now visible

[Joe Baptista <baptista@dot-god.com>]

i have no idea whats going on here - but this is confusing - has my name
been dragged into the second coming of the dnso.  it looks like were still
squabbling.  have i arrived in the nick of time - hello ???

i've just joined - i need to know - who put this list together?  i never
asked for your trust.  i've made this clear to joop already.

like i said - i'm a bit confused.

Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god

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On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Abel Wisman wrote:

> I see that besides insinuations that hold no ground, you now also are
> responsible for the memberlist of icannatlarge dot org and the voterlist
> as well, is that really what this organisation wanted ?
>
> To answer your question: no I do not host the website.
> (nor did I offer to do so)
>
> I brought the hack and defacation of the website to the attention of the
> icannatlarge.orf list, it does not surprise me that Vittorio as a panel
> member reads that, but so do others.
>
> Where upon you base your thesis of me trying to prevent bottom-up
> procedures of any kind, let alone polling, is a mystery, and what it has
> to do with the forum is even less clear.
>
> Finally; the right to publish names to a semi-closed list such as this
> is not the same then making them part of poll and the consequences one
> should have to accept are no more then others posting to and politely
> formulating their opinions, harrassement, stalking, unwanted inclusions
> in polls or other nastiness is not an "acceptable consequence of
> participation" to an emaillist concerning internet-governance.
>
> Coming back to your final two questions: as a member of this
> organisation I have a right to A. participate in polls, if any are held,
> and B. that includes participating on all other activities the
> organisation wishes to initiate.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Abel
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joop Teernstra [mailto:terastra@terabytz.co.nz]
> > Sent: 08 February 2003 23:57
> > To: abel@able-towers.com; 'atlarge Discuss List'
> > Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] polling closed. results now visible
> >
> >
> > At 12:26 a.m. 9/02/2003, Abel Wisman wrote:
> >
> > >This is exactly what should have been prevented.
> >
> > Dear Abel,
> >
> > I know that you have tried your best to prevent  Bottom-up
> > Polling. It was you who brought that "hack" of the Forum to
> > Vittorio's attention and
> > caused him to shut it down. The Forum allows anyone to set up
> > polls of his own. Are you the one who is now hosting icannatlarge.org?
> >
> > By all means, see if you can get legal advice on whether a
> > participant on a
> > public list has the right to publish the names of others who
> > publish on
> > that list.
> > These are the new boundaries and uncharted waters. I had no
> > intention to be
> > rude to anyone and I had the list announced in the Forum well
> > in advance
> > asking for additions and removal requests.
> > Yes, the next time I will try to find all the email addresses
> > and ask for
> > permissions. My apologies to all who felt imposed upon.
> >
> > My opinion is that when you participate in a public forum,
> > you have to
> > accept the consequences as long as there is no malice or
> > harm. There are people on these lists that have been
> > malicious and who have
> > caused harm. It is good to know where and how the limits on public
> > behaviour need to be drawn.
> >
> > Two simple questions that will solve your problems:
> >
> > 1. do you want to be on a voters' list next time? 2. Do you
> > want your name
> > to be removed from the "participants" list next time?
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -joop-
> >
> >
>
>
>
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