[atlarge-discuss] Re: [ga] The list

["Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>]

I agree totally with what you say here Joop.

The clearly constructive way forward (if you believe in democracy) is to
formally ask the membership the same questions again, to confirm what they
have already said.

Not to do so, is to run away from the truth.

Either that, or we just take a pragmatic approach and concede that these
findings show pretty obviously what our membership actually wants, and we
take action as a Panel to implement the wishes of the membership.

I'd go with either of these solutions.

What I cannot accept is a rump of a panel IGNORING the strongly-indicated
views of the membership.

I have to say, I have confidence in Joop's sincerity, and I have little
doubt a re-poll will simply show that Joop's findings were right all along.

I think, Joop, it is fair and legitimate to look critically at the mechanism
and consider ways of better demonstrating security and verification, but at
the same time the Poll cannot simply be dismissed unless you are prepared to
dismiss and ignore the sincere and serious votes of 171 of our most active
members.

Those who don't like the results, will try to ignore the expressed views of
these members.

They may not like the process, but they cannot dismiss the members.

The members, on the other hand, CAN dismiss the panel.

You only have to ask them. We already have, but you can ask them again!

yrs,

Richard Henderson

----- Original Message -----
From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
To: Vittorio Bertola <vb@bertola.eu.org>
Cc: <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] The list - atlarge vote of trust/distrust: result


> At 11:17 p.m. 10/02/2003, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> >On Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:25:54 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> > >Who ran the vote? Was it audited by anyone?
> >
> >Answers are: Joop Teernstra, and no.
>
> And the constructive answer is to run an official, properly supervised or
> audited Poll, confirming (or not) the results of the unofficial Poll.
>
>
> Another sensible question would be: why on earth would someone who has for
> 5 years tried  to prove that some form of e-democracy is possible,
> undermine his own work by tampering with his polling results?
>
> The question of why people who don't like the results attack the
> credibility of the mechanism or the person is much easier to answer.
>
> -joop-
>
>
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