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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Election Scrutineering

On 22:46 03/03/03, Joop Teernstra said:

At 02:42 p.m. 3/03/2003, J-F C. (Jefsey)  Morfin wrote:

I take that Admin account.
Please send me the password and the URL of the procedure documentation.

"take"?

yes. Like in "I take the con".
Jefsey, I appreciate all volunteer offers and I hope you did not mean to pre-empt other offers.
I do. As every other one serious will. There was no other way to save the day than to have a group of Admins taking over the booth from you. Your response is now in front of everyone. You want to retain the booth, control the people and you never committed not to be a candidate.

Ideally, I would be looking for someone with a better command of English than me and someone who is not too partisan.
You may remember, dear Joop, where that response (you already made) lead you and the IDNO last time. I have already given: please enjoy yourself. But not with me.

The net result needs to be an improvement over the current situation.
I would like to have more responses from other members.
This was a last attempt of mine. I am sorry for those I lead to believe there was some hope in here.

I acknowledge the victory of Joop over the ruins Vittorio created for him.

From now on, I will take other ways to protect the interests of the @large members of the Internet governance. I may use this list form time to time to that end and inform you of the actions we will undertake.

I think the main lesson of this disaster is that managing the net and representing the users call for professionals, and for a serious analysis and understanding of "netocracy". It also calls for professional tools to manage the debate, take decisions, and vote. It eventually calls for people getting real.

I thank you all for your efforts and help.

I did hope we could make it in spite of having been hijacked from day one by Joop and by Esther's supporters. This is too bad: King Joop will not go anywhere while Brother Joop could have shared in victory. Esther may reach back the BoD, I wish her success. At least one @large will represent one @large's interests. She is not that bad: she picked my slogan for ICANN: "let get real".

Vittorio now "Chairman of ICANN At Large Advisory Committee" is selling the "national digital sovereignty" concept I had hard times introducing 15 months ago, http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/workshop/cctld/cctld049.pdf. But he is doing it so poorly, at Esther's RALO glory that it would give the Internet to the ITU, would ITUs people not be more smarter than that :-).
Half an idea is worse that an idea.

We are not there, but at least two slogans of ours are :-)
We certainly lost a battle, we did not lost the war!
jfc










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