Re: [atlarge-discuss] MOTIONS to all remaining panel members

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Bruce and all,

bruce@barelyadequate.info wrote:

> Jefsey Morfin wrote:
>
> | 1. accept that Judyth and Jan have been manipulated by
> | Vittorio in closing
> | the shop and disband.
>
> I don't accept that, nither as a choice nor as the truth!  Granted, Judyth
> and Jan were thrust into this debate by Vittorio against their will, but
> that is the extent of their "manipulation" by Vittorio.  They have valiantly
> held onto the list, and kept it safe and secret in the face of conflicts. I
> would ask that they continue to carry out the charge thrust upon them and
> continue to keep the list secure until a decision can be made about the
> election.
>
> Speaking of which, I understand that Vittorio has resigned.

  Where have you been he resigned several week ago Bruce.
You see Bruce, this is yet another example of why you as
an ex-panel member cannot discharge your duties.  You have not
even been able to keep up with current events!  I respect many of
you ideas very much and have stated so in the past.  But please
admit that you are just not suited for such a position due to your
already obvious busy work schedule.

> I read words to
> that effect here, but I haven't seen a message directly from him to that
> effect.

  See the archives of this list for his resignation post.

>  But assuming that this is true, I would assume the conflict
> preventing this election is now over.

  No, it is still unfortunately ongoing, and worsening.

>
>
> |  I am ready to try that third way. To organize elections there are two
> |  possiblities, either a neutral and legitimate team, or an all parties
> |  co-management.


> I agree in part.  But I feel we should adhere to our existing rules as much

> as possible.

  Again there are not existing rules approved by the members.  Hence
they do not exist.

> To that end, even though Jefsey and I appear to be the last
> remaining panel members, I am now asking for any other Panel Members who
> have not yet formally resigned to step forward *today* and join myself and
> Jefsey in a call for elections.

  Elections were called for weeks ago Bruce.  Again where have you been?!

>
>
> I will be  the first to admit that the lack of bylaws is what is killing
> this organization: for too long the rules have been unclear, and that lack
> of clarity has brought us to this sorry place.

  There has been plenty of clarity, but lack or actual from the now
long defunct Panel.  Hence leaving this fledgling organization
in disarray.

>  But we can't resolve *that*
> issue until we have an executive panel that has the membership's confidence.

  Hogwash.  We only need a complete membership list in the hands
and trust of a third party, and than conduct a valid, safe and secure
election.

>
> This one obviously does not.

  The defunct panel does not even exist.  It hasn't for some time.

>
> So this Panel's final actions should be to move forward and hold elections
> to replace ourselves.

  ROFLMAO!  What a bunch of nonsense.  The MEMBERS must
replace the now long defunct panel.

>  To that end, in keeping with our current rules, such
> as they are, I'm making the following panel motions:

  my vote is below, for what is or is not worth...

>
>
> **************
>
> PANEL MOTIONS:
>
> I move that that Judyth and Jan each retain a copy of the membership list,
> keep it safe and secret, and provide a copy of said list to the Panel
> member(s) of their choice.  Panel member(s) chosen for said duties will be
> limited to (a) those who respond to this message, and (b) those who have not
> previously resigned their post.  This action will be for the express purpose
> of conducting an election to emplace 11 new Panel members.
>
> [ ] Yes
>
> [x] No
>
> [ ] Abstain
>
> I further move that the Panel member(s) so chosen move immidiate, without
> further delays, contact the list to solicit nominations and conduct the
> election.
>
> [ ] Yes
>
> [x] No
>
> [ ] Abstain
>
> Per our existing rules, this was sent out top the Panel list.  Panel members
> now have 48 hours for all Panel members wishing to to respond.  Beyond that,
> we have to assume that the remaining Panel exists of thse members who
> responded.
>
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon
> bruce@barelyadequate.info
> http://www.barelyadequate.info
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