Re: [atlarge-discuss] votes

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all fellow members,

  There are NO Panelists.  There is no Panel.  Hence the rest of your
contentions are either circumspect, or and attempt to misrepresent
that actual status.

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> Dear All,
> Bruce has proposed a first text to send to the Members to Eric and me. I
> responded. I suppose that Eric will do. I proposed that this text would be
> sent using the same mailing system as the ballots to test it.
>
> I read carefully Jan's mail. I agree with what he says. Today there are six
> persons that everyone know they have legitimally the list. Joop (less 17
> Members) from his system. Eirc, Buce and me as Panelists. Juduth and Jan
> due to Vittorio's decision. My feeling is that no one will object to any of
> them  being copied a file where that names are listed?
>
> Now the problem we face in a community where no one trusts anyone is to
> come with a simple system to vote. With three problems. One being to be
> sure that the result is exact. The second being to accept the Watchdogs
> (the vote trustees). The third is what Jan says: he si not able to check a
> program.
>
> Watchdog selection is up to Bruce.
>
> For the vote, the only trustable thing we have on the Internet is the
> return of a received mail. Hence my proposition which amounts to :
>
> 1. I am not a candidate and I send a mail to every member with a key in the
> mail which permits the watchdogs with the list of the Members and of the
> keys to check the mail is a ballot. I send the list to the watchdogs. I
> cannot cheat since:
> - I could send ballots to non members, but watchdogs would not find them on
> the list so they would discard them.
> - I could not send ballots to some members. They can easily claim them.
> - I could have my own list: others have it an can check if there are
> discrepancies.
>
> 2. The ballots will have to be returned to a mailbox copy to the watchdogs.
> So each watchdog will get all the votes. The problem here are the double
> votes and the missing votes due to a network error or not to the watchdogs
> and the processing itself.
> - the error are easily corrected in accepting the first vote received by at
> least two watchogs
> - the double votes: we will keep only the first one by date.
> - the processing. I can do it (or anyone else) and report to the watchdogs.
> As long as we leave them time enough to check the report and posssibly to
> correct bugs in the reading program there cannot be any cheating since
> every watchdog has the data from his onw mail which cannot be tampered in
> any way.
>
> Obviously that puts the burden on me. So I would be glad if someone else
> could do it :-) But I made it before and I think I can do it again
> jfc
>
>
>
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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