Re: [Fwd: [atlarge-discuss] WHAT MOST MEMBERS WANT]

[Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>]

Joop Teernstra wrote:

> At 03:43 a.m. 13/04/2003, espresso@e-scape.net wrote:
>
> >I sometimes wonder whether people in this group will ever
> >"get it" that what I've been advocating all along is some
> >form of process whereby possible solutions are discussed,
> >tested, compared, and eventually voted upon by the group
> >rather than identify ideas with particular individuals
> >and judge them according to whether or not one likes the
> >person they came from.
>
> Do you mean a group in which we all call ourselves "anonymous" ?
>
> How long do you think it will take before we are again individualized?
>
> Judging and especially trusting idea's by their origin is so human (and
> generally sensible) that I am astonished that you  actually believe that
> such prejudice can be overcome.

I suppose "getting it" means really "getting" it...  ;-)  Don't be astonished
Joop.  Long ago I read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged and The Fountainhead, both
books are quite instructional on how those who "get it", as Judyth put it,
operate.

>
>
> Also, how can you avoid people (like yourself) trying to score political
> points in an environment where people are "getting to know" other people in
> order to see if they can trust and elect them for office?
>
> >The latter approach has been tried for nearly a year and
> >the results have not been stellar. Can't we finally try
> >the other, which is normal elsewhere and seems to allow
> >for democratic decision-making?
>
> O.K. One can always try.
> What "some form of process" do you propose?

I am all ears too.  Let's hear what Judyth "proposes" to those of us who still
don't "get it".

Sotiris

"Man’s life, as required by his nature, is not the life of a mindless brute,
of a looting thug or a mooching mystic, but the life of a thinking being —
not life by means of force or fraud, but life by means of achievement — not
survival at any price, since there’s only one price that pays for man’s
survival: reason."
--Ayn Rand


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