Re: [atlarge-discuss] ...Some thoughts...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Sotiris and all fellow members,

  There are NO legitimate candidates here.  There is NO legitimate
election process yet.  There also is NO Panel to date as ex-panel
was abolished via a vote of the members in Joops poll that most here
accepted and over 10% of the members took part in.

  Hugh is a member here.  He could at some point in the future
be nominated by a fellow member for some position or another.

  Hugh's long and sorted history in the IDNO is certainly something
that is less than stellar IMHO as you and Danny rightly point out.
Joops is not much better.  And for this reason I would not nominate
either Hugh or Joop at this point in time for any position of responsibility

Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:.

  We seem here to be just recreating the same old problems again and
again that existed in the IDNO here.  Each of us would perhaps
be wise to ask ourselves why.  And than ask ourselves how do we
fix it and/or avoid this endless repetition. ???

 I personally believe that there are very few members here that are
capable of handling a position of a Panel member or any position
of leadership.  Sotiris, you are one that I believe can if you have the
willingness, desire, and dedication to do so.   But these things
alone will not sustain anyone in such a position in this fledgling organization.
Such requires financial compensation and the support of the members
over a sustained period of time.  These things we currently do not have.

  Danny, I am sorry to say but you are not one that is capable of handling
any position of authority of any real consequence although as a role
player you have some very good ideas.  But than again you are also
not a member of this organization.

 Jefsey, along with Eric an Bruce's help have botched yet another opportunity
for representation of the members in this fledgling organization.  This is
terribly unfortunate, but understandable as Eric's "Just do It" attitude
seemed to catch on a bit with a few members here before they really
had the time to think it fully through.  That is the trap or the "Just do it"
method.

> DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>
> >Hugh,
> >
> >As I recall, you were the Chair of the IDNO went it crashed and burned.  As
> >Chair you did nothing to restore the organization after the discussion lists
> >were shut down by your buddy William Walsh.  You also collaborated in the
> >expulsion of the IDNO's founding member Joop Teernstra.
> >
> >Plainly speaking, how could anyone trust you in a leadership capacity in this
> >organization?  Any list that's under your control, or the control of your
> >friends, might well disappear in similar fashion.
> >
>
> Yes, Hugh, go ahead and tell us....
>
> BTW, your choosing to answer Jan's question still does not resolve the
> fact that your candidacy was never seconded and you therefore not a
> legitimate candidate.
>
> --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
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