RE: [atlarge-discuss] The number 1 problem

["Abel Wisman" <abel@able-towers.com>]

Since I can agree that those standing for election are verified to be
"real" and "living" people and since I think of this as an important
step towards legitimacy for the panel to be, I would like to make a
proposal which considering the fact that more time has been allowed by
the panel anyway can be taken into account and action before the start
of the election:

There are several ways to "verify" whether people are "real" but the
most secure are not alike all over the world, f.i. to notarise in the
USA one can step into ones bank, pay approx $ 2.50 and have it done, to
do so in the Netherlands one would have to go to a notary and pay $ 200 

I would suggest that as an added task the "watchdog" committee will
verify the candidates in a not to difficult manner, I would think copies
of government issued id (passport and/or driving license) some form of
"letterhead" with the address of the candidate and perhaps a domain in
their name or other more or less secure means, but all in combination
with the copy of the passport/drivers license would at least take away
most doubts and as an added bonus would certify that the candidate is
over 18 years old, which should be a minimum age imo.

Sending a scan, fax or pdf containing the documents along with a
telephone-number to any (not all) member of the watchdog committee
should suffice.

The watchdog committee assures all candidates that the data they come to
see will not leave their hands and will only serve to verify the
existence of the candidate, which the committee will make know to the
public with a simple: "he/she is verified"

This does not need to be a total organisation wide approved act, if all
candidates agree to this then it can be done.

Kind regards

Abel


-----Original Message-----
From: Joanna Lane [mailto:jo-uk@rcn.com] 
Sent: 14 May 2003 23:35
To: Joey Borda **star*walker**; atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
Subject: [atlarge-discuss] The number 1 problem


> From: Joey Borda **star*walker** wrote:-

> (4) Call it what you will, along with continuing polling, I believe 
> our first and greatest need is the certification of membership, and 
> the election of a panel/committee for that purpose.
>
> I would be willing to volunteer, to stand for election, to such a 
> membership certification panel. Again, I can't see nominating people 
> who haven't first put up a profile.

I agree that the number 1 problem is ID verification, but disagree with
your timing. The work starts here and now, before this election. For a
start, Bob Crawford has never been certified as a person separate from
Jeff Williams, yet he is standing as a candidate in this election.
Independent verification of candidates must be undertaken before the
ballot papers go out therefore, and what you are suggesting would grow
naturally out of that, so you might want to think about joining the
Watchdog Committee and starting early.

Regards,
Joanna


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