Re: [atlarge-discuss] execlub.org's future? - Vigilantes give spammers a dose of their own medicine --WSJ

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all fellow members,

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> I guess we may start understanding the attack on Claude Thielet?
> He might have struck something.
> I note that the White House itself warned actions against that "vigilantes"
> when they attacked Al Djezira.

  Apples and potatoes here Jefsey. But nice try at spin.  But no cigar.


>
> jfc
>
> On 11:34 22/05/03, Jeff Williams said:
>
> >All fellow members especially Jefsey, Eric, and Bruce,
> >
> >Is the following the future for http://execlub.org/
> >
> >see:
> >Subject: [ABA-LAWTECH] AP: Vigilantes give spammers a dose of their own
> >medicine
> >Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 00:45:44 -0500
> >
> >Vigilantes give spammers a dose of their own medicine
> >
> >By MYLENE MANGALINDAN
> >The Associated Press
> >5/19/03 9:22 AM
> >
> >The Wall Street Journal
> >
> >When all 24 office phones at Scott Richter's e-mail marketing company
> >started ringing at once, with nobody at the other end of the line,
> >employees
> >knew they were under attack again.
> >
> >Daniel Dye, the systems administrator, could do little. After 15 minutes
> >
> >into the lunchtime assault last month, Mr. Dye recalls yelling, "Go
> >ahead
> >and pull your phones out of the walls for now. It'll be easier to think
> >about what to do." Examining the phone system's central computer, Mr.
> >Dye
> >found that someone had hacked into it and programmed a feature that
> >caused
> >all the phones to ring at the same time.
> >
> >Mr. Richter's company had been "flamed" -- attacked by a shadowy group
> >of
> >vigilantes who have taken to harassing spammers using just about any
> >means
> >they can dream up. Spam, or unsolicited commercial e-mail, has set off a
> >war
> >between marketers and people who hate spam. Mr. Richter, who is a mass
> >commercial e-mailer, has become a frequent target of attackers known as
> >antispammers.
> >
> >They form a loose affiliation that uses the Internet to coordinate
> >attacks
> >from around the world. E-mail marketers often feel powerless against
> >them.
> >"It's an underground cult running it," says Mr. Richter, whose
> >Westminster,
> >Colo., e-mail marketing business, Optinrealbig.com, pitches mortgages,
> >adult- related products and Viagra. "You don't know who they are."
> >
> >Here's one of them: Mark Jones, a 26-year-old software engineer in
> >Enterprise, Ala., who calls himself a "soldier" in the war against spam.
> >
> >  >From his home at night, he tracks down spammers by tracing the complex
> >
> >routing code hidden in e-mail messages. He reports them to what
> >antispammers
> >call "realtime blacklists," Web sites that track known spam sources and
> >allow computer administrators to block certain Internet addresses.
> >
> >Then, he fights back. "Anytime we find a source of spam," he says, "we
> >spam
> >them back."
> >
> >After his three children were asleep late one Saturday night last
> >November,
> >Mr. Jones sat down at his PC for a bit of spammer-flaming. First, he
> >says,
> >he visited a Web site, slashdot.org, that's a favorite among techies; he
> >
> >pulled down a list of about 10 alleged spammers. He programmed his
> >personal
> >computer to send a letter to each supposed spammer in the same way many
> >spammers do: through so-called open relays and mail servers that forward
> >
> >e-mail in ways that make it hard to track down the sender. As his
> >finishing
> >stroke, he had his PC send the message to each spammer 10,000 times.
> >
> >"We use the same methods the spammers use," says Mr. Jones, chuckling.
> >"It's
> >a bombardment."
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >--
> >Jeffrey A. Williams
> >Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
> >"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
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