Re: [atlarge-discuss] Report01

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Joey and all fellow members,

  Well that is a interesting "Oath" however we have all already seen
with Judyth's "Pledge" that such declarations are of little or no
real value.  Would you therefore sign affidavit with a court of
competent jurisdiction at your own expense to this effect?  If
not than I for one cannot except such a "Oath" as having any real
world value.


Joey Borda **star*walker** wrote:

> Abel:
>
> I pledge with my life, and all lives to come, that your submission will
> NEVER ever be released by me or members of this committee. You may secure
> it in a zip file and separately send me a password.
>
> I, and we, really appreciate your trust in us and your cooperation.
>
> I would like to engage you further in pleasant banter re various other
> parts of your response, and will save that for another time. We are all
> dancing as fast as we can as it is, as you can imagine, to provide members
> a meaningful final certification report.
>
> Again regards,
>
> /s/ Joey Borda/Bordo
>
> Thursday, May 22, 2003 * 8:31 PM EDT USA
>
> starwalker@gay.com
> starwalker@starwalker.org
> Yahoo! Messenger ID: starwalkeratgaydotcom
>
> At 01:10 AM 5/23/2003 +0100, Abel Wisman wrote:
> >Joey,
> >
> >Pls in between the lines my reply:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joey Borda **star*walker** [mailto:starwalker@gay.com]
> >
> > > Abel:
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response to Report. Sorry for my delay in responding.
> ><cut>
> > > The other report column heading is entitled "Photo ID
> > > Provided." There
> > > again the photo is embedded, even more reliably, in a document.
> >
> >I will gladly provide the now "known" verification comm with a scan of
> >my (current) passport, providing this remains confidential, I do not
> >wish to be publised anywhere for security reasons.
> >Please allow me 24 hours to have it scanned.
> >
> >
> > > The verification & certification committee is now at three members:
> > >
> > > Joey Borda/Bordo - starwalker@gay.com
> > > Martha Gottlieb - megom@gwi.net
> > > Jeff Holt - jefftttt@txucom.net
> > >
> > > We have satisfied each other that we are who we say we are,
> > > with driver
> > > license scans, and we can now certify ourselves to you and
> > > the rest of the
> > > @large members.
> >
> >Your (non contested) statement suffices for me, I do not need to see
> >those papers, if it is sufficient to each of you, I would not need more.
> >
> >
> > > >Several people on this list have spoken to me[.]
> > >
> > > Providing these people's names to us and a way to contact
> > > them to confirm
> > > your assertion would be evidentiary.
> >
> >Joop Teenstra, Thomas Roessler, and all other members of the whois TF
> >but undoubtedly Glen at ICANN or Marilyn Cade can also do, if you
> >require their phonenumbers it is my suggestion you email them on public
> >email addresses, I can not supply you with their phonenumbers on this
> >list, nor in private without their express permission as you no doubt
> >understand.
> >
> > > >though you see no reason for that last part, if you check on
> > > >www.able-towers.com you will see a certificate on which you
> > > can rely to
> > > >make sure that the company running that site is legit.
> >
> > > Can you more clearly put out the location of the certificate?
> > > I was unable
> > > to locate it, or else not understand what I was looking for or at.
> >
> >Yes it is on the center of the frontpage, "Geotrust True Site" just
> >click on there for more info.
> >
> > > >Though the phonenumber is outdated ( yes I know I will have to update
> > > >that) the remainder is correct, and to give "proof" of the
> > > fact that it
> > > >is me (which in the end is what we wanted) I have posted a
> > > >"companieshouse" certificate with more details on me at
> > > >http://www.able-towers.com/verification/04337286_REPA.htm
> > > >
> > > >I have blanked out the secretary's data.
> > >
> > > In combination with the paragraph above I am pleased to find that the
> > > information tracks.
> > >
> > > I will say however that while I have volunteered for and have
> > > a strong
> > > feeling for this task I doubt our ordinary members are going
> > > to engage in
> > > such a largely barrister/lawyer task I have just put myself
> > > through to
> > > reach this conclusion.
> >
> >Short of publishing my birth-certificate along with my passport and a
> >written affidavit of a by the users trusted lawyer not related to me, a
> >copy of any ID such as passport or Drivers License can be (certainly
> >once scanned) be easily forged, so that is no real "proof". The site
> >cerificate along with the companies house declaration means that others
> >have already done that search for you and found that I am real and the
> >commpany legit.
> >
> > > I do not think you do your candidacy favor by expecting that of our
> > > membership.Nor likely will a member telephone you. But I just
> > > might. Though
> > > again this would be an extraordinary expectation in the
> > > current life of our
> > > organization.
> >
> >Not that extraordinary, just a phonecall away :P
> >
> >My candidacy and willingness to proof I am real know borders, I have no
> >wish for others to copy my personal data from a drivers license or
> >passport to use and abuse at will, I am sure users will respect that.
> >
> > > I have answered you in this forum rather than privately as I
> > > would have
> > > preferred as you have raised the matter here.
> > >
> > > Finally, all that you have brought to our attention will be
> > > entered as
> > > links in the next report and considered by the committee in
> > > it's final
> > > deliberations and certification rating conclusions.
> >
> >I believe in openess of the procedure, and since there is nothing to
> >hide and only to establish I am glad that you choose to answer likewise.
> >
> >Thank you for the time invested
> >
> >Abel
> >
> >
> >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > /s/ Joey Borda/Bordo
> > >
> > > For the Verification & Certification Committee
> > >
> > > Thursday, May 22, 2003 * 7:40 PM EDT USA
> > >
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> > > starwalker@starwalker.org
> > > Yahoo! Messenger ID: starwalkeratgaydotcom
> > >
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> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Joey Borda **star*walker** [mailto:starwalker@gay.com]
> > > > > Sent: 21 May 2003 02:34
> > > > > To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > > > > Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Report01
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Members & Candidates:
> > > > >
> > > > > For everyone's convenience and consideration the first
> > > report out of
> > > > > the verification and certification committee is now published --
> > > > > Report01:
> > > > >
> > > >http://www.starwalker.org/icannatlarge/verfication_committe_r
> >eports/rep
> > >o
> > >rt01.html
> > >
> > >Please report additions, omissions, corrections or errors to
> > >Committee@starwalker.org.
> > >
> > >Additional categories will be added as they evolve, with the addition
> > >of an anticipated final column -- "Certification Score" -- at the
> > >appropriate time using a 5-point scale for overall scoring of linked
> > >and submitted materials.
> > >
> > >Candidates are once again cordially invited to submit additional links
> > >and identification documents.
> > >
> > >Additional members are once again cordially invited to join the
> > >verification and certification committee. Write to
> > >Committee@starwalker.org.
> > >
> > >/s/ Joey Borda/Bordo
> > >
> > >Tuesday, May 20, 2003 * 9:33 PM EDT USA
> > >
> > >starwalker@gay.com
> > >starwalker@starwalker.org
> > >
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