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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Report01
Michael and all fellow members,
The FTC would disagree with you in part here.
See:http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/edcams/infosecurity/index.html
http://security.getnetwise.org
http://www.staysafeonline.info/
and especially: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/alerts/privtipsalrt.htm
You may wish to consider to attend the FTC upcoming meeting on June 4
on this subject area see:http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/workshops/technology/index.html
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same and address one wants to present on the Internet. Third-party verification is paramount to real identities from a distance. Sotiris Sotiropoulos suggested thawte.com as one way to resolve this issue. I am sure there are more. But, we need to follow that path.
>
> Regards,
>
> Micheal Sherrill
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Joey Borda **star*walker** <starwalker@gay.com>
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2003 19:43:36 -0400
>
> At 11:59 AM 5/21/2003 +0100, Abel Wisman wrote:
>
> >To me it seems that "picture" is the most important thing to you to
> >"verify" people, to me however that is the least important thing, since
> >that is the one thing I can only verify with my own eyes when meeting in
> >person and then it is no longer of importance.
> >It might be fun to put a face to a name, but unfortunately the only
> >digital picture(s) of me are ver few and very old (early 90's)and since
> >I look definitely different, there is no use in showing them.
>
> Abel:
>
> Thanks for your response to Report. Sorry for my delay in responding.
>
> It is agreed that a photo in and of itself is of little or no value. In the
> case under discussion herein the report column heading is entitled "Photo
> in Link." The value of the photo(s) is in their being embedded in publicly
> available web pages, particularly pages at sites independent of a
> candidate. We have a good example of this in the instance of Mauro Rios
> being reported in the next report, Report02, which is nearing publication.
>
> The other report column heading is entitled "Photo ID Provided." There
> again the photo is embedded, even more reliably, in a document.
>
> There is a use in providing even expired Photo Identification. It would
> demonstrate they were in your possession and consistent with your identity
> in this list.
>
> The verification & certification committee is now at three members:
>
> Joey Borda/Bordo - starwalker@gay.com
> Martha Gottlieb - megom@gwi.net
> Jeff Holt - jefftttt@txucom.net
>
> We have satisfied each other that we are who we say we are, with driver
> license scans, and we can now certify ourselves to you and the rest of the
> @large members.
>
> We will continue to make ourselves available to receive scans of actual
> identity documents in confidence until Saturday morning at which time we
> will publish our final report to the members, in time for the election.
>
> I think I "safely" speak for all of us on the committee that to gain your
> confidence in us we will make our identification documents privately
> available to you and other candidates in advance of you and the other
> candidates doing so.
>
> >However to establish me being real:
> >
> >Several people on this list have spoken to me[.]
>
> Providing these people's names to us and a way to contact them to confirm
> your assertion would be evidentiary.
>
> >I have been a TF WHOIS
> >member for 2 years, and I gave the url's to two of my business sites,
> >though you see no reason for that last part, if you check on
> >www.able-towers.com you will see a certificate on which you can rely to
> >make sure that the company running that site is legit.
>
> Can you more clearly put out the location of the certificate? I was unable
> to locate it, or else not understand what I was looking for or at.
>
> >Though the phonenumber is outdated ( yes I know I will have to update
> >that) the remainder is correct, and to give "proof" of the fact that it
> >is me (which in the end is what we wanted) I have posted a
> >"companieshouse" certificate with more details on me at
> >http://www.able-towers.com/verification/04337286_REPA.htm
> >
> >I have blanked out the secretary's data.
>
> In combination with the paragraph above I am pleased to find that the
> information tracks.
>
> I will say however that while I have volunteered for and have a strong
> feeling for this task I doubt our ordinary members are going to engage in
> such a largely barrister/lawyer task I have just put myself through to
> reach this conclusion.
>
> I do not think you do your candidacy favor by expecting that of our
> membership.Nor likely will a member telephone you. But I just might. Though
> again this would be an extraordinary expectation in the current life of our
> organization.
>
> >Furthermore my phonenumbers are in the sigfile.
>
> Nor likely will a member telephone you. But I just might. Though again this
> would be an extraordinary expectation in the current life of our organization.
>
> >Regards
> >
> >Abel
>
> I have answered you in this forum rather than privately as I would have
> preferred as you have raised the matter here.
>
> Finally, all that you have brought to our attention will be entered as
> links in the next report and considered by the committee in it's final
> deliberations and certification rating conclusions.
>
> Regards,
>
> /s/ Joey Borda/Bordo
>
> For the Verification & Certification Committee
>
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joey Borda **star*walker** [mailto:starwalker@gay.com]
> > > Sent: 21 May 2003 02:34
> > > To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > > Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Report01
> > >
> > >
> > > Members & Candidates:
> > >
> > > For everyone's convenience and consideration the first report
> > > out of the
> > > verification and certification committee is now published -- Report01:
> > >
> >http://www.starwalker.org/icannatlarge/verfication_committe_reports/repo
> >rt01.html
> >
> >Please report additions, omissions, corrections or errors to
> >Committee@starwalker.org.
> >
> >Additional categories will be added as they evolve, with the addition of
> >an
> >anticipated final column -- "Certification Score" -- at the appropriate
> >time using a 5-point scale for overall scoring of linked and submitted
> >materials.
> >
> >Candidates are once again cordially invited to submit additional links
> >and
> >identification documents.
> >
> >Additional members are once again cordially invited to join the
> >verification and certification committee. Write to
> >Committee@starwalker.org.
> >
> >/s/ Joey Borda/Bordo
> >
> >Tuesday, May 20, 2003 * 9:33 PM EDT USA
> >
> >starwalker@gay.com
> >starwalker@starwalker.org
> >
> >
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