Re: [atlarge-discuss] Internet for Users

["Jkhan" <Jkhan@MetroMgr.com>]

Jeff,

I am asking a very *obvious & transparent* question, that I feel is relevant
to the forum of this organization.
Before an Election is held.

Yes it was poised twice, because it is posed at two (2) different Audiences:

the Membership
and
the Candidates
--

> Hence any "Metric" would of
> course have to be reflective of the desire of the members
> irrespective of "Demographics" in said participation
> to an AtLarge organization.

" There are two-sides of a Coin "

... ok ... It's election time the Candidates are lined up, the Membership is
fired-up and ready to vote!

Side 1.
I feel it important to know; What the Membership which comprises this
organization is comprised of.
That is to say, to know *WHY* the people support a certain perspective, be
it related to:

The interests of *Users* on the demand side,
The interests of *Industrial Affiliates*
The interests of *Government(so)*

...so... Is it because they are:

Good Samaritans
Industrial Relatives
Public Servants
--
Side 2.
I feel it important to know; What the Candidates (Potential Panel Members)
which comprises this organization is comprised of.
That is to say, to know *WHY* the Candidate support a certain perspective,
be it related to:

The interests of *Users* on the demand side,
The interests of *Industrial Affiliates*
The interests of *Government(so)*

...so... Is it because they are:

Good Samaritans
Industrial Relatives
Public Servants
--
...now...
Because there are different perspectives associated to intrest, the metric's
of Icannatlarge demographic is important to establish, in order to
understand the dynamics of People's relationship with Icannatlarge.(*)

The Members have to understand this dynamic, *AND* the Panel have to
understand this dynamic, BEFORE THE VOTE.  As they will be in a Push-N-Pull
flux, with a metric (an understanding of the boundaries) to keep them within
tolerance.
I am saying that the two halves must closely match ideologies, in order to
become successful.

Zenith Television Co.: "The quality goes in ... before the name goes on"
The same applies here, I want to know the quality of the Panel and Members
of this organization before the name Icannatlarge goes on.

Regards,
James Khan

(*)  [and to Jefey's credit, he did establish a dialog for this, by asking
us to send in questions for the vote. However asking questions posed above,
'at the time of the vote' would be blind, so I choose to ask them now. ]


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
To: "Jkhan" <Jkhan@MetroMgr.com>
Cc: "Jan Siren" <sirenj@earthlink.net>; "Joanna Lane" <jo-uk@rcn.com>;
<atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Internet for Users


> James and all fellow members,
>
>   James, it seems you ask the same question twice. One
> addressing Panel members, which we do not have at this
> point in time, and one for members, LOL!  What's
> up with that anyway?
>
>  In any event, members and future Panel members are one in the
> same except that the future Panel members will be the servants
> of the membership at large.  Hence any "Metric" would of
> course have to be reflective of the desire of the members
> irrespective of "Demographics" in said participation
> to an Atlagre organization.
>
> BTW, I believe that we have already had this question answered
> and quite a bit of discussion in like regard.
>
> Jkhan wrote:
>
> >    Jan,
> >
> > If you would please, two questions:
> >
> > What question(s) would you ask, to derive a demographic metric of the
> > ' Icannatlarge-Member's professional/business' relationship(s), too,
> > their participation in Icannatlarge?
> >
> > What question(s) would you ask, to derive a demographic metric of the
> > ' Icannatlarge-Panel Member's professional/business' relationship(s),
> > too, their participation in Icannatlarge?
> >
> > Regards,
> > James Khan
> >
> > What's New at the UN Today!
> > WIPO
> > http://www.wipo.org/about-ip/en/studies/publications/domain_names.htm
> >
> > http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/
> >
> > http://ecommerce.wipo.int/domains/
> >
> > ITU
> > http://www.itu.int/WORLD2003/
> >
> > http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/telsurp/TSProjGuidlnsFeb03.pdf
> >
> > http://www.itu.int/osg/spu/ni/promotebroadband/index.html
> >
> > http://www.itu.int/newsroom/wtd/2003/
> >
> >
> > Joanna Lane wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > James,
> > > Objection. These are not good questions. They promote a fundamental
> > > misunderstanding about whois the At Large. At Large exists to
> > promote the
> > > interests of *users* on the demand side, as opposed to those on the
> > supply
> > > side. Naturally, some of those users will be Individual Domain Name
> > > Registrants, whose interests are the focus of some candidates, Joop
> > for
> > > example, but to imply that domain name issues are the only concerns
> > of this
> > > organization, and to omit reference to the general public user
> > anywhere in
> > > your questions completely misses the fundamental principles at the
> > heart of
> > > the At Large. Put simply, the At Large exists to lobby for the user
> > interest
> > > that ICANN ignores. It exists for the benefit of the public, not
> > domain name
> > > registrants, individual, corporate or otherwise.
> > > Joanna
> >
> > Joanna, your views are more like my own than those of any candidate
> > whose
> > views I know.
> >
> > Joop mentioned "legislation against alt roots," "what is spam,"
> > "arbitrary
> > seizure," "inadvertent deletes," "bullying cease and desist letters,"
> > "hijacking," "fee increases, etc." as if these issues are solely of
> > concern
> > to domain name owners.  But all of these do affect the way *users* use
> > the
> > Internet, and accordingly, *users* should be able to assert themselves
> > about
> > them through their own at-large constituency.
> >
> > I would like to know from the candidates the role the *users* are to
> > play
> > in the at-large constituency
> >
> >
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
>     Pierre Abelard
> ================================================================
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> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
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>
>
>


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