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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Questions for all candidates



Ivonne and all fellow members,

Ivonne Valeria Muñoz Torres wrote:

> Hi Jeff:
>
> Please, READ all this URL´s:
>
> If you want to know the kind and quality of the school where I teach, please
> look at:
>
> - www.itesm.mx
> - http://dri.sistema.itesm.mx/dial/proyectos/sim/
>
> And if you want to know a forum where I teach in collaboration with the UNAM
> (I hope you know what UNAM is), you can see:

  Yes I am very familiar with UNAM.  I believe that Alejandro
hails from there and INEGroup has several members associated
with UNAM as well. So I will later this evening follow up with
some of them as time allows to get a better picture and open
a file for you in my database.

>
>
> Seguridad en Cómputo
> L3. Análisis Forense e Implicaciones Legales. Instructores. ...
> http://www.seguridad2003.unam.mx/seguridad2003/index.php?liga=L3inst
>
> And for my Curriculum, just hosted in an ITESM server, you can read:
>
> www.cem.itesm.mx/derecho/imunoz.htm
>
> And a publication made it by ITESM and published in their own web:
>
> Boletin Ejecutivo del Tecnológico de Monterrey
> http://actualizacion.itesm.mx/web_boletin/info_tele3.html
>
> it´s enough... or you want more?

 The more the better of course.  However I shall put my staff on reviewing
this information ASAP, as well as doing a brief review myself
and get back with you and everyone as soon as I can.

  However I must say that none of the URL's you provided answers
the central concern regarding ethics and this sham of an election
to which you are a willing participant thus far.

>
>
> ----
>
> Ivonne Valeria Muñoz Torres
> ivonnemunoz@arachnis.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Ivonne Muñoz Torres -" <ivonnemunoz@arachnis.net>
> Cc: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>;
> <"micheal@beethoven.com"@data.ysi.net>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Questions for all candidates
>
> > Ivonne and all fellow members,
> >
> >   What university or law school do you teach at?  Is there a reference
> > as to your teaching experience of "Cyber-law"?  The ABA does not
> > have a listing for you is why I ask.  Yet many non-US legal folks in
> > certain legal disciplines are listed.
> > Other references:
> > http://amsterdam.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-lat-0112/msg00006.html
> >
> >   As to your brief comment on ethics.  It would seem that any person
> > knowing taking part in a fraud or a supposed "Election" would have a
> > very low threshold of ethics.  How than do you rectify that with
> > your comment/remark on ethics?  What precisely and in detail, are
> > your particular set of ethics.
> >
> > Ivonne Muñoz Torres - wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joop:
> > >
> > > Sure, ...
> > >
> > > I want to remind something, as a teacher of ciber-law I have one
> important
> > > and basic thing in my classes: the ethics
> > >
> > > Ethics as a way of life, as a personal compromise with the community and
> > > myself.
> > >
> > > I want to seed the real interest to lead us as a community (good
> community),
> > > diminishing  a lot of bad things (since my point of view), taking
> actions
> > > as:
> > >
> > > - constructing a common interpretation of the atlarge community
> > > - establishing common goals and general goals
> > > - finding the b-sides of the community with the intention of finish them
> > > - take the autoregulation as a way of respect for the other opinions
> > > - listening the needs of all the topics relationed with the atlarge
> > > interests
> > > - forgetting the concept of "elite groups"
> > > - taking part of this evolving
> > >
> > > This is the way....
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > >
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> > > Ivonne Valeria Muñoz Torres, LED
> > > Móvil: 044 55 5438.6642
> > > ivonnemunoz@arachnis.net
> > >
> :..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..::..:
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> > >
> > > --------- Mensagem Original --------
> > > De: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> > > Para: ""Ivonne Muñoz Torres - "" <ivonnemunoz@arachnis.net>,
> > > "micheal@beethoven.com" <micheal@beethoven.com>
> > > Copia: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> > > Asunto: Questions for all candidates
> > > Fecha: 24/05/03 02:28
> > >
> > > At 07:29 p.m. 24/05/2003, Ivonne Muñoz Torres - wrote:
> > >
> > > >In that philosophy, I think the Internet has a social function too, in
> that
> > > >way, I want to construct a better place for the users... and for the
> future
> > > >users...
> > >
> > > Ivonne,
> > >
> > > This sounds very good.
> > > Can you tell us your personal view on how such a better place looks
> like?
> > >
> > > No spam? No scams? No monopolies? No child abuse. No terrorist websites?
> > > Or no restraint, no Fascism, no racism, no blacklisting, no hatelists,
> no
> > > ostracism?
> > >
> > > Dictatorship of the majority?
> > > Or of the elite?
> > >
> > > How do you like to construct the icannatlarge?
> > >
> > > -joop-
> > >
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> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
> >     Pierre Abelard
> > ================================================================
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> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
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> >
> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
================================================================
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801



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