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RE: [atlarge-discuss] Re: Jeff Williams
Hello Bruce:
Horse pucky. You are starting to babble. You are also starting to produce the same grammatical and spelling errors as Jeff Williams. Curious. Please re-read your first paragraph.
We do not care if Jeff Williams is real. Obviously, he is somewhat real or he would not be able to produce the inane, spurious, and voluminous amounts of clap trap that hide most, if any, as you put it, very relavant, well-reasoned argumets that are very much on topic (sic). I do not wish to wade through a thousand Jeff Williams posts for ten good ones. I wish he would just post to you and you give me the good ten. Can you convince him to do so? Please try.
Also, please stop me if I start to shout about your comment regarding Jeff Williams only representing himself. ARE YOU MENTAL? Where have you been, Bruce? Shall we start with (we at INEG have been doing this for years), (we at INEG are closely following this action), (our INEG members in China are aware of this problem), or better yet, Bruce, his signature.
Last, but not least, you berate our members for taking Jeff Williams off topic by, your words, slamming him, and adding to the noise. Horse pucky, again. Jeff Williams does not need to be unfettered. Jeff Williams needs to be metered. In the past he has intimidated other members via gross belligerence, threatened them by saying he would report them to government authorities, and multiple claims that he would sue them in a court of law. If you do not agree I have an email reference on my hard drive from Albert Brickel concerning direct posts by Jeff Williams regarding the above allegations.
I appreciate your posts, Bruce. They may be sporadic and with some of them I do not agree. But, your noise is minimal. As it should be.
Regards,
Micheal Sherrill
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From: <bruce@barelyadequate.info>
Reply-To: <bruce@barelyadequate.info>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:45:42 -0700
Here's my take on the whole Jeff Williams thing. Most of this has been said
by me before.
Yes, Jeff posts too much. But the same has been said of myself at times,
given how I post in spurts (and probably will be said tonight after I post
the boat load of messages I have collecting in the "Messages to Send From
Home" folder -- 12 and counting, including this one!). But if you analyze
Jeff's posts, when he's not responding to others who are also off topic when
slamming *him*, he is most often posting very relavent, well-reasoned
argumets that are very much on topic.
I also remember the very dark days on the old ALSC forum -- after ICANN
announced its intent to throw the At Large out with the garbage -- when
Jeff, myself and a few others were the only ones keeping the At Large
conversation alive. So this organization owes its very existance in part to
his tenacity.
Finally, I refuse to fall into the "Jeff isn't real" argument. I've talked
to him on the phone before, so I know he's a real person. As to his claimed
affiliations, I could care less: this is a *user* organization. We have
many members with memberships, and even leadership roles, in other
companies, organizations or government agencies. None of those affiliations
mean squat here. In this organization members represent only themselves.
So Jeff's affiliations are immaterial. Here he represents only himself. As
do we all only represent our individual selves. One Person, one vote.
So, folks, quit driving up the noise level on this list by making off-topic
posts about Jeff, and treat him the same as everyone else: read and comment
on his on-topic comments, and ignore the off topic ones!
Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon
bruce@barelyadequate.info
http://www.barelyadequate.info
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